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The Fourth Holy Sword

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Eldest Gruff:

--- Quote from: Denarian-31 on April 20, 2015, 09:30:14 AM ---Commence HellSword WAGs

Which btw I would love! :P

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Don't be shy then, this is a thread for all things pointy  8)

kazimmoinuddin:
the swords of the cross comes with restrictions correct, it was why murphy could not harm nic that time. would the hellsword have it own restrictions that can be used against it?

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on April 21, 2015, 04:46:36 AM ---the swords of the cross comes with restrictions correct, it was why murphy could not harm nic that time. would the hellsword have it own restrictions that can be used against it?

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Are you asking if the bad guys play by the rules? 

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on April 18, 2015, 12:11:57 AM ---The swords could all be under one angel, but it doesn't really fit with what we know.
 - Michael the Archangel gave Sanya his sword, Esperacchius.  Why would he be involved if it's Uriel's show?
 - It certainly seemed like Gabriel that was trumpeting through Murphy when she wielded Fidelacchius as it filled the area with light.  It matches Mab's description of him walking "in a chorus of light".
 - Michael seemed personally familiar with Uriel, having been unsurprised by his appearance in SKIN GAME.  It seemed like they'd talked before.

On the flip side of "sponsorship"
 - Michael's house has a safe room with work by Raphael or his lieutenants.  That might imply that Michael and Amorracchius are associated with that sword.
 - Uriel's comment about being surprised that Fidelacchius took on that specific form of faith under his purview might indicate that he's associated with that sword.
 - Esperacchius seems decidedly under MichaelAA's purview, as he gave it out.

Then again, maybe the swords have no connection to the angels at all.  But it seems possible.

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I think it is more likely that all three swords have a different angle associated with it similar to the coins but operating under slightly different rules. It fits ideas of balance. When the coins were made heaven reacted in balance and created the swords.

The swords have their own nature and their own will. Harry seemed to communicate with one in small favor.

Bergi:
About the Hellsword:
Maybe it is not a sword, but the Athame. It is a equal trade to Amoracchius and Harry questions if it is in league with it. And i mean a evil dagger would be much more fitting for backstabbing evil guys ;) And since time is not really a matter to archangels before and after humans don't matter.

About the wardens swords:
When Demonreach waffles about the Warden he says that at first there was only one and then there were many. So what if Merlin locked away all the big bad guys and then realized that there are still plenty of bad guys out. So he picked up the shards he still had stored away safe and does some powerful magic on them that bends their purpose because now they are able to kill innocents. He then teaches the leader to be of the wardens how to make the swords and seals himself away.
Why is it such an hidden spell?
1) Making more swords would dimish the power because they all tap into one power source.
2) Bending the purpose of something this powerful could be bad
3) Knowing how to create something probably means you can undo it to.

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