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Who Attacked Arctis Tor, and Why
Carl:
@Raidem: Okay your officially crazy :o.
@Peregrine: Depends we don;t know precisely what Arctic Minor is for, we've never been there. I mean look at Arctis Tor, sure it's technically Winter Capitals, a major winter fortress, irrespective of who's in residence), and all the rest, but it's emphasized as Mab's personal home/fortress and place of power much more. I'm working on the Assumption that Arctis Minor is a similar thing for the WL. And really i'd say specifically because of all the angels camped out there that the Carpenter household is much more that to Molly in the real world than her appartment.
@Griffyn612: true but it's not like anything non-mortal can get across with the angel's there. I imagine they can seal the border against them. And having it sealed against mortals by proxy would probably please them. I also suspect that they can protect against seepage though i don't really see the placement as under Molly's control. Besides remember Mother Summers line from CD about winter not being so cold it freezes the heart entirely. Their cold but not heartless. And probably not stupid enough to piss Molly off by doing anything to harm her family. n a way Nic probably got off lightly at the end of SG. If he'd succeeded Molly's reaction would not have been pretty...
knnn:
--- Quote from: namkcas on February 14, 2015, 08:09:24 PM ---From there we have a kidnapping plot around Splattercon which goes rather badly for the Outsider forces. Eventually they do succeed and take Molly. Now, in my model Mab is occupied and Maeve is the highest level Winter Court member around. However it is done, Maeve betrays the defenders of AT and the battle is lost. Who is in the attacking forces does not matter too much, but it is headed by infected characters - Maeve, Eldest Fetch and a Denarian (presumably Thorned Namschiel). The idea is to kill all the defenders so that there is nobody to be a witness to future events. Eldest Fetch is designated to kill Molly. This would be done to have Harry see a senior member of the Winter Court do the killing. That is why Molly is not killed off screen.
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I like your interpretation of events, but you still run into the old WoJ that Mab had Molly brought to AT. Would your theory still work if Maeve's plan was to kill Molly outright and Mab pulled her to AT to protect her?
--- Quote from: WoJ ---Ask yourself why Mab had Molly brought in. What chain of events did that set in motion? What secondary effects came about because of it?
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the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: ShadowWing on February 13, 2015, 08:34:01 PM ---We have confirmation in Small Favor that Nic had no clue that any of the Fallen (at least any in his court) were present at AT. IIRC, Harry pretty much calls out Nic about the attack when they had the convo at the Shea and Nic blinked in shock and hsi manner did seem to change has his brain was going overdrive at who among the fallen would do it...and why.
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And we believe that at a point when Nicodemus was doing his very best to distract Harry by any means necessary, he'd be above appearing shocked ? Or not good at it, enough for Harry to see through him ?
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 14, 2015, 02:52:23 PM ---A single Denarian killing thousands of Arctis Tor defenders for Mab, only to let Harry in? Why not just order all of the defenders away from Arctis Tor as part of the guard-the-borders program that was running?
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Because Harry would find that suspicious. We do have a WoJ that Mab would sacrifice her entire Court without an instant's hesitation if there was something to be gained from it.
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on February 15, 2015, 03:52:41 AM ---Because Harry would find that suspicious. We do have a WoJ that Mab would sacrifice her entire Court without an instant's hesitation if there was something to be gained from it.
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I very much doubt that she would sacrifice her entire Court without getting at a minimum the Outsiders permanently banned from reality.
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