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Who Attacked Arctis Tor, and Why

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namkcas:
So I sat here over the last 2 days and am getting ready for another re-read of PG.  Going into that, I want propose my theory.

First to answer the questions from the OP:  AT was attacked by forces aligned with the Outsiders for the purpose of driving a wedge between Harry and Mab.

My theory in a bit more detail.

I am of the view that there is a lot of Fog of War in the DF.  I think that a lot less is known about characters as they enter the story by our main actors than we often assume.  In this case, Molly is a target of opportunity.  Her magic is noticed by some agent of the Outsiders (and I have trouble organizing them) and a trap is laid around Splattercon.  The idea is to kill Molly at AT and have Lea be the only being there to talk about what happens.  Lea will claim that Mab did the killing or that Mab ordered Lea to kill Molly. 

From there we have a kidnapping plot around Splattercon which goes rather badly for the Outsider forces.  Eventually they do succeed and take Molly.  Now, in my model Mab is occupied and Maeve is the highest level Winter Court member around.  However it is done, Maeve betrays the defenders of AT and the battle is lost.  Who is in the attacking forces does not matter too much, but it is headed by infected characters - Maeve, Eldest Fetch and a Denarian (presumably Thorned Namschiel).  The idea is to kill all the defenders so that there is nobody to be a witness to future events.  Eldest Fetch is designated to kill Molly.  This would be done to have Harry see a senior member of the Winter Court do the killing.  That is why Molly is not killed off screen. 

In typical Harry fashion, he overcomes the Scarecrow and wins the day.  At the same point (in a bit of confusion), Lea's infection is revealed to Harry.  Mab assists Team Harry's exit via time manipulation (slowing the pursuers) and winks at him to show Harry that she has seen what he has done and approves of it.

So, I want to point out here what is supposed to happen again from the Outsider side's perspective.  Molly is killed, hurting Harry's relationship with Michael.  On top of that, Molly's death would be placed squarely at the feet of the Winter Court.  Just FYI, this might drive Harry to take up the Coin and take him out of Mab's WK list forever.  Molly's death at AT would have definitely put an end to any potential Mab/Harry hookup.  Imagine the following line:

Lea: "Dear Child, mine Queen has gone Mab.  She has killed your friend's daughter and imprisoned me to keep me from warning you.  Maeve can help you protect your friends.  Seek her out and tell her we spoke."

Edit:  My view is this is the place and time where Mab found out that Maeve was infected.

peregrine:
Why drag Molly to AT to do that?  Why not just kill Molly whenever, and blame Mab, somehow?  Plus, the part about how Mab can't kill people who aren't associated with the fae, and as we saw in SK, palling around with someone who is doesn't cut it.

  And why would it hurt Harry's relationship with Michael, since at that point, Harry was not Molly's mentor or anything other than family friend? 

raidem:

--- Quote ---I am of the view that there is a lot of Fog of War in the DF.  I think that a lot less is known about characters as they enter the story by our main actors than we often assume.  In this case, Molly is a target of opportunity.  Her magic is noticed by some agent of the Outsiders (and I have trouble organizing them) and a trap is laid around Splattercon.  The idea is to kill Molly at AT and have Lea be the only being there to talk about what happens.  Lea will claim that Mab did the killing or that Mab ordered Lea to kill Molly. 

From there we have a kidnapping plot around Splattercon which goes rather badly for the Outsider forces.  Eventually they do succeed and take Molly.  Now, in my model Mab is occupied and Maeve is the highest level Winter Court member around.  However it is done, Maeve betrays the defenders of AT and the battle is lost.  Who is in the attacking forces does not matter too much, but it is headed by infected characters - Maeve, Eldest Fetch and a Denarian (presumably Thorned Namschiel).  The idea is to kill all the defenders so that there is nobody to be a witness to future events.  Eldest Fetch is designated to kill Molly.  This would be done to have Harry see a senior member of the Winter Court do the killing.  That is why Molly is not killed off screen. 

In typical Harry fashion, he overcomes the Scarecrow and wins the day.  At the same point (in a bit of confusion), Lea's infection is revealed to Harry.  Mab assists Team Harry's exit via time manipulation (slowing the pursuers) and winks at him to show Harry that she has seen what he has done and approves of it.

So, I want to point out here what is supposed to happen again from the Outsider side's perspective.  Molly is killed, hurting Harry's relationship with Michael.  On top of that, Molly's death would be placed squarely at the feet of the Winter Court.  Just FYI, this might drive Harry to take up the Coin and take him out of Mab's WK list forever.  Molly's death at AT would have definitely put an end to any potential Mab/Harry hookup.  Imagine the following line:
--- End quote ---
Very good, it is rather IN and OUT of you.


--- Quote ---So, I want to point out here what is supposed to happen again from the Outsider side's perspective.  Molly is killed, hurting Harry's relationship with Michael.  On top of that, Molly's death would be placed squarely at the feet of the Winter Court.  Just FYI, this might drive Harry to take up the Coin and take him out of Mab's WK list forever.  Molly's death at AT would have definitely put an end to any potential Mab/Harry hookup.  Imagine the following line:
--- End quote ---
I think that is what they tried.  It failed.  (OUT side failed)
Now, Inside gets there turn at BAT.

namkcas:
Peregrine,

No better place to frame Mab than AT.  And remember, I have Eldest Fetch killing Molly under orders.  So Mab does not do the killing.  The best part is you have Lea right there to blame Mab.  Now Harry may not like Lea but he thinks at that point that she can not lie.  So, if Lea says "Mab orders Molly killed".  You don't think Harry will believe that?

Harry fails to rescue Molly...you can't imagine that would make them less close?  Charity for sure would rail against Harry forever.  Michael would be pushed by her to move away from Harry.

raidem:

--- Quote ---I doubt Nemesis cares either way, other than taking a pawn away from Mab.
--- End quote ---
I'd say the things you do while mostly infected is WHAT Nemesis mostly cares about.

Also, think of the series as mostly one way from past=>future.  At a pivotal point, Harry gets to travel from future=>past.  Why? Because the other side already did.  They took future Harry on a path to hell from future=>past.  So there is an imbalance because In hasn't played all their chips yet.

It isn't until Harry recognizes the significance of "there you are" within Uriel's hint that "no matter where you go, there you are."  Does Inside's unspent chips come into play.  I think MAC may be a future echo of this HARRY, or at least of SOMETHING, who hasn't yet spent the chips.

I'd say that Storm Front is nearly when a merging of Harry occurs on the return trip.  Maybe it will go as far back as to when HWWB makes his play in Harry's past during the Harry and Justin encounter.  Maybe more precisely back to when a choice creates an inconsistency when Harry first learned used magic. 

Think of the emotional anguish it would cause for Harry that one of his past/future IN/OUT selves was the Shadowman, Victor Sells.

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