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Who Attacked Arctis Tor, and Why
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 14, 2015, 05:53:07 PM ---Fair enough. What would the goal be, though? Free Lea, if Mab is at the Gates? Or defeat Mab if she were busy and distracted? Or both, if she's there?
I've added it as an option, since it's specific enough to differentiate from just a general Circle or Outsider attack.
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Strike a blow at the heart of Winter while Mab is otherwise occupied maybe. Gauge how well their hold over Maeve is progressing if it is an Outsider led offensive. If it is another party, they likely do not know that Mab is the protector of the Outer Gates and perhaps simply saw an opportunity to attack while she was gone and her second is indisposed of...after all Maeve had been shirking her duties before she became infected, perhaps an enemy like the Reds of the Circle could have viewed her as a less than capable defender and sought to bring down her forces as with the White Council or simply 'show Mab up' with a display of power. Say to her yes in fact we CAN get to you, you are not untouchable.
namkcas:
To answer, I don't know. The whole AT scenario doesn't make sense to me. I think of Harry showing up and getting Molly only seeing one Lea and Eldest Fetch. Now Harry is retreating and then an entire hunting force shows up? So it's okay for only infected Winter Fae to be there?
So, I am in the mood to ignore what Harry thinks and say how could that situation evolve. If I go back to Mab only being able to speak through Grimalkin, is that her being mad about Lea or Maeve? Maybe she doesn't know about Maeve until the attack on AT? I am just confused.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: namkcas on February 14, 2015, 06:39:30 PM ---I am just confused.
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That's always been the case for me when it comes to PROVEN GUILTY. None of it made sense at the time, and it was my least favorite book. Only when I started thinking about the Time Travel Harry theory did it become interesting. But if we disregard that, and simply try and figure out what happened, even knowing everything we know now, it still doesn't make sense.
raidem:
--- Quote ---Also semi-related WAG. Anyone want to bet Arctis Minor is now positioned on the NN side of the Carpenter household?
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I stated something like it but I placed more emphasis on Molly seeking refuge at the Carpenter's home.
I like your idea that MOLLY places her residence on other side of Carpenter home. It probably would be some sort of contradiction in how it linked up but I could see Molly making a deal with Sarissa to somehow split the real estate.
raidem:
--- Quote ---I'm looking for theories on Who attacked Arctis Tor , and specifically What was their Motivation?
I can't see anything but two scenarios, as I don't see an actual motivation for anyone else other than those two. But Eldest Gruff opinioned in another thread that there may be other factions with motivations to attack Arctis Tor. I'd like to see what others think about the who and why of the attack.
Specifically, please provide at least the name of the group involved, and an actual reason for their attack.
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IN MAB vs. OUT MAB (or at least IN Winter vs. OUT Winter)
This was a plot with one Mab plotting to take down the other Mab.
They each have their chess pieces.
Reality favored Mab ultimately won this battle by virtue of the fact that Team Dresden entered Arctis Tor and accomplished what they did there.
I think Proven Guilty is a contest between these two powers.
Our Mab though lost one piece and that was Maeve.
Our Mab positioned her assets at the WALL. There Mab used this opportunity to seize the capital, and place her goons there. It was in essence a plot where Winter is at war with itself.
That is what I think happened.
I think there are lots of cases in which, OUT wants to kill Harry and at other times wants to keep Harry. They are targeting him when he has turned different states. Likewise, this occurs with other characters too.
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