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Who Attacked Arctis Tor, and Why
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: King Ash on February 27, 2015, 05:52:01 AM ---We saw him at the seat of his power in Midgard I think, Odin's seat of power was in Valhalla as far as I know.
It may be that Odin can only dwell in Asgard, and that if he wants to dwell on earth for long, he needs to leave behind most of his power. Thus Vadderung.
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The only being with location restrictions appear to be Naagloshii. More likely its that his power, like most all the other gods, waned as belief stopped.
brighellac:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on February 27, 2015, 06:02:32 AM ---The only being with location restrictions appear to be Naagloshii. More likely its that his power, like most all the other gods, waned as belief stopped.
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I think there's a range of location restrictions and effects.
Odin said he was the most powerful in his office in changes.
Naag have an energy bleed when they leave their home
DR has to bargain to move his consciousness beyond the island.
A threshold's power and the wards based on it are restricted to that home.
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: brighellac on February 27, 2015, 06:09:36 AM ---I think there's a range of location restrictions and effects.
Odin said he was the most powerful in his office in changes.
Naag have an energy bleed when they leave their home
DR has to bargain to move his consciousness beyond the island.
A threshold's power and the wards based on it are restricted to that home.
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Odin was at the focus of his power, just like Arctis Tor is for Mab or Demonreach for Harry...its their sanctums. But Naagloshii, unless otherwise provided for, steadily lose power when away from their native lands. The other three would not, they just wouldn't be at their absolute most powerful 24/7 away from those places that's all. So its still very different.
King Ash:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on February 27, 2015, 06:15:31 AM ---Odin was at the focus of his power, just like Arctis Tor is for Mab or Demonreach for Harry...its their sanctums. But Naagloshii, unless otherwise provided for, steadily lose power when away from their native lands. The other three would not, they just wouldn't be at their absolute most powerful 24/7 away from those places that's all. So its still very different.
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WOJ says that powerful beings only send a whisper of their power through to the mortal world so that they don't damage it. We see from Mab that her continued presence makes winter stick around longer, and that Ferro isn't in his true form because it would crack the earth.
Vadderungs place of power was in the mortal world, aka Midguard, but myth puts his place of power as Valhalla in Asgard (ie part of the Never Never). So if Odin is truely powerful to challenge Mab, and we know that the Erlking leading the Wyld Hunt with a few Denarians haven't got a chance in hell against her, than he can't be on earth at full power or he would be impacting the world in a discernable way. Remember that even Shagnasty disrupted the world enough for Harry to sense it and Odin should be vastly more powerful than it.
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: King Ash on February 27, 2015, 06:30:51 AM ---WOJ says that powerful beings only send a whisper of their power through to the mortal world so that they don't damage it. We see from Mab that her continued presence makes winter stick around longer, and that Ferro isn't in his true form because it would crack the earth.
Vadderungs place of power was in the mortal world, aka Midguard, but myth puts his place of power as Valhalla in Asgard (ie part of the Never Never). So if Odin is truely powerful to challenge Mab, and we know that the Erlking leading the Wyld Hunt with a few Denarians haven't got a chance in hell against her, than he can't be on earth at full power or he would be impacting the world in a discernable way. Remember that even Shagnasty disrupted the world enough for Harry to sense it and Odin should be vastly more powerful than it.
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Beings like the Mothers or the Archangels sure, that's why the former don't make a habit of wandering earth, and the latter have rules governing their strength to keep the earth 'whole'. Shagnasty disrupted the immediate area around him ON Demonreach, which is an island designed to lock him up. The disruption was it sensing a powerful, evil force. Odin may not be at the very apex of his strength in say Mac's pub, neither would Mab. But they could still swat down Shaggy in a heartbeat from their barstools.
Personally I do not see Odin as a pound for pound challenge to Mab, not as he is anymore. His strength is cunning, resourcefulness and an information network second to pretty much none. Does he still come as an incredibly formidable challenge absolutely, could he give her a rub for a bit, sure I wouldn't count the All-Father out. But in true raw power terms, probably not.
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