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Origins of the Sidhe (High Fae) [CD spoilers]

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Serack:

--- Quote from: Mira on May 08, 2014, 03:40:51 PM ---That kind of fits old Mother Winter don't you think?  Or rather what we picture black magic as being, but in her hands is it evil?  Harry used to practically wet his pants anytime he had to deal with Mab.. He considered her evil along with her other titles like the Queen of Darkness.  However we are now seeing that the picture is much more complicated.  So is Mab really evil or is she a powerful Fae with a nasty job that has to be done.. Defending the Outer Gates against the Outside ain't beanbag.. ::)

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Titania's stated sole purpose for all her power and dominion equal to Mab's her self is to keep Mab in check.  I'm not always happy with all the usage of the terms evil and abuse of power and all that in this thread, but I think we can be assured that Mab is a Monster.  With a capital M.


--- Quote from: jimbutcher on January 13, 2008, 12:11:45 PM ---Sacrifice her best troops?  Mab would sacrifice every creature *in* Winter, every one she could bring from Summer, and every single mortal on planet Earth if that's what she thought was appropriate.  And she wouldn't even need to add extra sugar to her cup of tea afterwards, much less lose sleep over it.
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A Monster with a purpose mind you.  But...

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Serack on May 08, 2014, 04:35:33 PM ---Titania's stated sole purpose for all her power and dominion equal to Mab's her self is to keep Mab in check.  I'm not always happy with all the usage of the terms evil and abuse of power and all that in this thread, but I think we can be assured that Mab is a Monster.  With a capital M.

A Monster with a purpose mind you.  But...

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That probably a better way to put it, yes.  She has power, and that power has purpose.  But her definition of that purpose appears to be (by that WOJ) "Keep the Outsiders Outside", which has nothing to do with protecting those that are "Inside" even though that is the beneficial side-effect. 

Mira:

--- Quote from: Quantus on May 08, 2014, 04:40:11 PM ---That probably a better way to put it, yes.  She has power, and that power has purpose.  But her definition of that purpose appears to be (by that WOJ) "Keep the Outsiders Outside", which has nothing to do with protecting those that are "Inside" even though that is the beneficial side-effect.

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  Yeah, Mab is a monster, but she is our monster... ;D  She does what she feels she has to do, even if with a hint of sadness as in killing her own daughter..

kingd67:
We have some seriously interesting conversations going on here! 

One thing, with the discussion of magic as either Black, Gray or White it is my belief that magic is not inherently any of these it is simply magic, the intent with which it is used is what would determine into which category it would fall.  So you could have two wizards use the exact same "spell" and it would only be considered B, G or W as to the intent to which is was used.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: kingd67 on May 08, 2014, 08:58:27 PM ---We have some seriously interesting conversations going on here! 

One thing, with the discussion of magic as either Black, Gray or White it is my belief that magic is not inherently any of these it is simply magic, the intent with which it is used is what would determine into which category it would fall.  So you could have two wizards use the exact same "spell" and it would only be considered B, G or W as to the intent to which is was used.

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But that is not precisely accurate as Black magic leaves a real, detectable stain that will eventually drive you insane, and it appears there exists an artifact capable of literally sucking this stain out of you before those effects take hold. 

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