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Team UMO: a theory, for reference purposes
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on March 13, 2014, 01:40:45 AM ---Neuro, when you get a chance, could you add exactly what you mean by the Swiss Army Chainsaw theory?
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The proposed object of the exercise is for a starborn human (which appears to principally mean, thus far, one with seriously atypical power over/resistance against Outsiders) to have as much access as possible to as many of the various magical power sources as the DF has.
Hence Harry, thus far, is a strong wizard (Maggie's genetics plus lots of exercise); has experienced Hellfire and later been granted soulfire; has some familiarity with necromancy; has faith magic from his faith in what magic is for (lighting up his pentacle); and most recently acquired a Winter mantle. All of which are things he can use more efficiently against Outsiders than almost anyone else because of the starborn-ness.
Quantus:
Ok, all laid out there I disagree with a lot less of this theory than I thought I would. While I doubt they often sit down for afternoon tea, I have no problem with both Uriel and Odin working towards a common goal and with a certain amount of accommodation if not active conspiracy.
My main contention is in characterizing Mab as (knowing/willing) part of that alliance. Correct me if Im wrong, but the only evidence you site that she is working with them is that bit from bob in GS. But Bob's theory that they were working together was purely based on the fact that there was an unusually long winter indicating that she was still in town. Which we later learned was because Uriel had, apparently against her wishes, taken Harry's soul on walkabout, forcing her to sit still on earth and give mouth-to-mouth to a human for months, out of season and at great personal strain. All so he could teach her new pet that he she was mistaken in her belief that she could mold him at her whim. And in this case at least we can be certain that she was not simply misleading him as part of some greater manipulation, since we have a WOJ that she was being entirely Truthful, and just happened to be entirely Wrong. If it were all a collaborative scheme between her and Uriel, that could not have been the case.
Im not saying Mab isn't a Grade A puppetmaster, but I think she's getting handled as much as she is handling Harry. In the Grand scheme she isnt master of the house, she is the big scary Guard Dog at the gate to keep trespassers out; and Titania is the slightly less scary violently aggressive Dog in the house that's there to stop the big scary dog if she gets off her leash.
PS. is it just me or does every thread seem to derail into a White Court discussion lately? I myself derailed the Deidre thread earlier today....
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Tami Seven on March 13, 2014, 12:13:02 AM ---That last part doesn't make sense, only in that apparently the recipe for a Starborn involved a man more like Malcolm. So...when Maggie ran away to find him, LR killed her. Admittedly just as she was giving birth to her Starborn child. Why did LR keep her for 6 years? Why didn't he work with her to make sure she had her Starborn child as per the recipe?
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My admittedly fairly wild preferred theory there is that Maggie's death at the time of childbirth is part of the Starborn recipe and a willing sacrifice on her part. I don't believe that she was naive enough about magic to leave anything he could target an Entropy Curse on if she had to escape his thrall, or that if he just wanted her dead it would hit her at that precisely calibrated a moment and not before.
As for keeping her six years, I propose that he is working with her, in helping identify and bring about the conditions needed for a Starborn.
Tami Seven:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on March 13, 2014, 02:17:02 AM ---My admittedly fairly wild preferred theory there is that Maggie's death at the time of childbirth is part of the Starborn recipe and a willing sacrifice on her part. I don't believe that she was naive enough about magic to leave anything he could target an Entropy Curse on if she had to escape his thrall, or that if he just wanted her dead it would hit her at that precisely calibrated a moment and not before.
As for keeping her six years, I propose that he is working with her, in helping identify and bring about the conditions needed for a Starborn.
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I wonder what Thomas and Harry would say if they heard this theory...
forumghost:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on March 13, 2014, 02:17:02 AM ---My admittedly fairly wild preferred theory there is that Maggie's death at the time of childbirth is part of the Starborn recipe and a willing sacrifice on her part. I don't believe that she was naive enough about magic to leave anything he could target an Entropy Curse on if she had to escape his thrall, or that if he just wanted her dead it would hit her at that precisely calibrated a moment and not before.
As for keeping her six years, I propose that he is working with her, in helping identify and bring about the conditions needed for a Starborn.
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He had Thomas. That's already enough. And besides, IIRC the Ritual he used in BR didn't actually require anything tied to the victim to target them.
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