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Harry's murders of Non-humans! (Cold Days spoilers)
Tami Seven:
I'll say this, I don't think I could have killed anyone as easily as Harry did, even a Sidhe, unless it was in self defense. Harry has had a lot of experience killing supernatural creatures. You can create a list of all the non-human, supernatural creatures he has killed and it would be a long one. This is even before the WK mantle.
raidem:
To have a view of Harry as this kind, generous, pure person is so far off the mark when compared to our, or at the least, my morality. When I explain Harry and the Dresden Files to a non-reader, it becomes abundantly clear that Harry is so far across the moral line. It doesn't become apparent to Harry until after Changes, that he has made some really bad calls. The Dresdenverse has a very skewed morality and I have to remind myself of this when reading it. It is fiction. I don't have to base my morality on the morality that I find within the Dresdenverse. If I did, I would be sorely Lost.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 05, 2013, 04:14:15 PM --- Yeah, did it really happen? Isn't a rule about spilling blood at her court? Because a little bit later when actual blood was spilled there was a big stink about it. Maybe it was an illusion?
--- End quote ---
Freezing someone solid and shattering them might well not technically count as spilling blood, it's just the sort of finicky detail Faerie enjoy.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: raidem on November 05, 2013, 04:36:45 PM ---When I explain Harry and the Dresden Files to a non-reader, it becomes abundantly clear that Harry is so far across the moral line. It doesn't become apparent to Harry until after Changes, that he has made some really bad calls.
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I'm waiting to see whether he actually changes his behaviour based on those epiphanies before I'll credit that it's becoming apparent to him.
I strongly suspect a large part of the point of the series is to explore how the particular values of morality and heroism Harry buys into are flawed, by demonstrating the consequences of him acting on them.
Elanmorin:
Murder is generally defined, or at least generally understood, as the unjustified killing of another human being.
Also, in order for something to be morally wrong there must be an absolute objective standard that makes it wrong.
In this case, Mab is the standard for what is or is not morally wrong in regards to Winter Sidhe. According to her, Harry was completely justified. Besides that, there is no standard in existence that prohibits the slaying of supernatural predators (obviously). For that matter, slaying natural predators is virtually always permitted if said predator is showing aggression. If I'm out in the woods hunting and find myself surrounded by wolves I'm going to shoot the most aggressive one and hope the others take the hint. Harry's actions were no different.
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