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Harry's murders of Non-humans! (Cold Days spoilers)
Serack:
--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on November 22, 2013, 10:10:34 PM ---Harry was angry because the ghouls ripped apart sixteen year olds. Even with the quote from Backup, I think Harry would have done the same thing if humans had did that (though he may have not used magic to kill specifically).
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It doesn't help my argument that Lasciel's shadow was also stoking his inner hulk in a bid to gain more control over him.
--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on November 22, 2013, 10:10:34 PM ---Musings on the morality of how to treat non-mortals (non-Free Willed beings) are blurry. Personally I think Jim himself is struggling a bit with his decision to make some creatures "always evil" and our modern time views. I'd elaborate but conveniently, I started a discussion on the subject in a thread that I started in another forum (note: on the Maeve thing at the bottom, I was later convinced that Nemesis did not give her Free Will. It only altered her nature. She was just tricked).
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Mira:
--- Quote ---And yet I look outside my window and it seems grey to me right now.
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Egads I am agreeing with Neuro! The sky outside my house is also grey, sometimes it is gold, red, pea green [severe thunderstorms] and sometimes blue, add in about of poluntents and atitiude and it can be even black! So what the facts are as to the color of the sky are in the eye of the beholder and the current conditions and location on the Earth...
123456789blaaa:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 23, 2013, 08:41:41 PM ---And yet I look outside my window and it seems grey to me right now.
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I think you know what I meant neuro. I was using a simplified example. Use any fact of your choosing in place of it if you wish.
Unless you want to argue that there are no facts. That's a line of debate that I hold no interest in continuing.
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 23, 2013, 08:41:41 PM ---Why not ? It could be exploring a what-if about socialism along with a what-if about dragons.
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It could... but it probably isn't. People who attempt to challenge themselves in this way are not the norm. Book writing is hard and then you have to do that on top of it? It's like playing pro-baseball and then hamstringing yourself to see what it's like. There are probably some people who do so but most pro-baseball players won't.
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 23, 2013, 08:41:41 PM ---I think you underestimate the degree to which a lot of speculative genre writers are following through consequences of where a given idea leads, even when it leads in directions very different from their own beliefs.
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Perhaps. See above.
SAZ:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 23, 2013, 03:28:13 PM ---Myself, I try not to assume the author has an agenda of that sort; exploration of questions is more fun than proselytising answers.
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--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on November 23, 2013, 08:03:37 PM ---I think you misinterpreted the quote. An author doesn't have to have an agenda to put their own worldview into the text.
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Yep - not quite what I was getting at. It’s been a long day, and the brain is tired. In a day or two I’ll try and revisit and rephrase it so it is clearer.
Serack:
Ok, now yous guys have done it.
BABAM
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