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Skin Game Predict-a-thon. [All the latest Spoilers permitted and encouraged]
robertltux:
something that would be severely twisty
What if JUSTINE somehow gets the Lash Nickle??
this would be possibly the Best/Worst of both worlds for everybody
1 Thomas's Hunger Demon now has a "friend"
2 Justine may or may not become effectively Immortal
3 The Temptress just got a MeatSuit (and she has the WCV seal of approval!)
kazimmoinuddin:
What if the heist is not simply just against hades, but possibly nic enemies in the fallen and their allies the black circle? having a starborn on the job makes sense, he can stand against their power when needed.
TDF_fan:
1. We have been told that Nicodemus has a very specific target in mind, ostensibly kept in the Labyrinth of Daedalus. What is Nic trying to get his hands on and why?
Not sure, will come back to this...
2. Nicodemus apparently called in a marker from Mab to get Harry on the team. Does he have a specific plan for using Harry or did Mab twist his request? Which of Harry's capabilities will he admit to needing, and (given that this is Nicodemus after all), which abilities is he scheming for Harry to use?
This is Nicodemus, he's got a plan alright, to manipulate Harry into doing something that will benefit him in the long run. Something involving the use of soulfire...
3. Jim has mentioned that the book will be "Ocean's Eleven". Who else did Nicodemus recruit? How will they interact with Harry?
Not sure, will come back to this...
4. Harry's general method of operation is to call on his friends for help. In this book, Harry is (initially) allowed one extra backup member on the crew. Who will it be? Which of Harry's other allies will "interfere" before the plot is over?
Thomas is the logical choice, but I'm going to say Lea is getting back into the picture here. Thomas/Molly/Ivy
5. This is a Denarian book, so (unlike the last "end of the world" showdown), the Swords will almost certainly be present. In fact, there have been various hints... Which Sword wielders will appear in the next book and how will their interference/help affect the plot?
Sanya will be there to argue against Harry working with Nic, Michael will come off the bench and something terrible will happen to him for his trouble, and seeing as we're going to the underworld I wouldn't be surprised if we somehow saw Shiro at some point. (even if only as a flashback)
6. Mab is apparently against Nicodemus succeeding in this heist. In the Cold Days, we found that Mab had complex reasons for wanting Harry to kill Maeve. What are Mab's reasons in this book? Is it simple thwarting or is there something deeper?
Not sure, will come back to this...
7. At the end of Cold Days, Harry needs to stay on the island to keep his growing headaches at bay. The start of Skin Games implies that those headaches will need to be resolved by the end of the book. Who or what is causing those headaches, and how will the whole thing get resolved by the end of the book?
It's the growing presence of Lash, who has been mostly dormant while recovering from the Psychic Bullet she took for Harry back in WN, her emergence is actually spawning a new soul inside Harry's body and is the reason for the headaches, Molly will act as a psychic conduit for Lash and transfer her into the body of Helen Beckett's daughter,
8. One of the key components of the "Ocean's Eleven" movie is that there is a final twist/reveal. Given that we've got Nicodemus, Harry, Mab, and potentially Hades (and who knows who else) all trying to get the better of each other, if there's one thing you can count on it's some sort of last minute quintuple-cross. What will be the nature of the twist and how will it all fall out?
Not sure, will come back to this...
9. (Extra Credit) There are many WAG ("Wild A$$ Guess") theories on the boards, some crazier than others. Write up to three WAG theories (or make up your own) you believe are correct that will be confirmed (or at least have evidence in favor of) in Skin Games.
WAG#1: I mentioned before that Lash is going to wind up in body of Helen's daughter, this is why...she's going to take up Fidelacchius, the sword of faith
WAG#2: Harry will admit to himself that he has feelings for Molly beyond that of a Master/Apprentice and give in to her desire to be with him, only to be caught in the act by Murphy who will be crushed even though she knew it was a possibility (dare I say, even an inevitability!)
WAG#3: Nicodemus will die by the conclusion of events in this book...Dead...D-E-D...and Anduriel will wind up in the hands of the last person Harry would ever suspect/expect.... (click to show/hide)Michael, and after some masterful verbal manipulation by Anduriel, Harry will be forced into killing him before a threat against his daughter could be raised.
10. (Extra Credit) This is that "free form" question where you can come up with anything else you think will be in this book. Specific quotes Harry might say (will he actually quote Ocean's Eleven? The movie will have come out already in Harry's timeline)? Tidbits about the White Council? The fate of Molly? Write down anything you want. Note that whatever you write must be specifically mentioned or hinted at in Skin Games in order to be worth credit.
Not sure, will come back to this...
kazimmoinuddin:
I believe that one day the daughter of helen, code named demeter will rise again. since in every denarian book she is mentioned, good chance she will show again. Since she is seeming an empty shell, I guess she could host Lash. That fact makes her great for a sword of the cross.
in every denarian book, the nickleheads loose members or their coins are taken by the church. There are only 4 knights who have retained their hosts through the series, so either they die or the rehoused ones. If any of the old time knights die, that would remove capable hosts from the order. Some of which might have been comprimised by the nemesis. So the church will add to their stash of 14 coins, or harry will start a collection in the well.
Something will happen to deidre, as daughters always get messed with, if your parent if big in the supernatural world.
In every denarian book, a knight puts down the sword, the first died, and michael had to retire.
dillic1:
1. We have been told that Nicodemus has a very specific target in mind, ostensibly kept in the Labyrinth of Daedalus. What is Nic trying to get his hands on and why?
Jumping off of what a few other people have discussed, I believe they're after Thorned Namshiel's infected coin. I also think Mab traded the coin to Hades in return for Hades not casting a claim on Harry for "dying". I know we've debated whether or not Harry actually did die, but I believe whatever actually happened to him would have allowed Hades to also claim Harry's soul.
2. Nicodemus apparently called in a marker from Mab to get Harry on the team. Does he have a specific plan for using Harry or did Mab twist his request? Which of Harry's capabilities will he admit to needing, and (given that this is Nicodemus after all), which abilities is he scheming for Harry to use?
I think Nic needs Harry's protection or strength against Outsider mind-whammies so that once freed, the coin doesn't destroy them. Have we seen the Fallen operate in the NeverNever? I think perhaps the coins might find outside intervention easier there. Or perhaps whatever is guarding the coin has been infected as well, hence the need for Harry.
3. Jim has mentioned that the book will be "Ocean's Eleven". Who else did Nicodemus recruit? How will they interact with Harry?
ChurchMouse
Shagnasty
Insert Denarians Here
Binder
4. Harry's general method of operation is to call on his friends for help. In this book, Harry is (initially) allowed one extra backup member on the crew. Who will it be? Which of Harry's other allies will "interfere" before the plot is over?
Thomas will be recruited by Harry. Sanya, Fix, Molly, Murphy, Sarissa, and the Alphas will be involved in some way, shape, or form.
5. This is a Denarian book, so (unlike the last "end of the world" showdown), the Swords will almost certainly be present. In fact, there have been various hints... Which Sword wielders will appear in the next book and how will their interference/help affect the plot?
Sanya and Harry are going to duke it out. Sanya is going to be killed, but not by Harry and not during their fight. Sanya will die protecting Harry or another innocent from Nic. Harry goes 'you-just-stole-my-daughter' level crazy and destroys the Labyrinth in the process of attempting to destroy and/or trap Nic n Company.
6. Mab is apparently against Nicodemus succeeding in this heist. In the Cold Days, we found that Mab had complex reasons for wanting Harry to kill Maeve. What are Mab's reasons in this book? Is it simple thwarting or is there something deeper?
She wants the coin back from Hades, but she also wants Harry to find something else of great importance in the Lab that we won't know is important until another book or 2.
7. At the end of Cold Days, Harry needs to stay on the island to keep his growing headaches at bay. The start of Skin Games implies that those headaches will need to be resolved by the end of the book. Who or what is causing those headaches, and how will the whole thing get resolved by the end of the book?
It's Lash and Mab is playing word games with what it will do to his family/friends. Having Harry die AGAIN would destroy them, especially after he is just back being alive (in their mind).
8. One of the key components of the "Ocean's Eleven" movie is that there is a final twist/reveal. Given that we've got Nicodemus, Harry, Mab, and potentially Hades (and who knows who else) all trying to get the better of each other, if there's one thing you can count on it's some sort of last minute quintuple-cross. What will be the nature of the twist and how will it all fall out?
Nic has a deal with Hades that if he can deliver Harry Dresden to him, he will give him the coin. Nic will try to steal the coin first, with his deal with Hades serving as his backup plan. Harry in turn makes a wager with Hades of some kind and is able to win, granting his freedom. Harry will straight up kill one of the Fallen and destroy a coin in some way.
9. (Extra Credit) There are many WAG ("Wild A$$ Guess") theories on the boards, some crazier than others. Write up to three WAG theories (or make up your own) you believe are correct that will be confirmed (or at least have evidence in favor of) in Skin Games.
1. Harry will fight the Minotaur, who will be nearly immune to magic. He will end up having to run away, but will use the Minotaur to destroy another enemy later on, then destroying the minotaur after it's served his purpose.
2. Michael WILL NOT take the news of Molly well, will punch Harry (Harry will pull a Spiderman and mention he could have avoided the punch, but takes it anyway). Charity will be the voice of reason and forgive Harry.
3. Harry will still not meet Maggie yet.
10. (Extra Credit) This is that "free form" question where you can come up with anything else you think will be in this book. Specific quotes Harry might say (will he actually quote Ocean's Eleven? The movie will have come out already in Harry's timeline)? Tidbits about the White Council? The fate of Molly? Write down anything you want. Note that whatever you write must be specifically mentioned or hinted at in Skin Games in order to be worth credit.
1. Someone in the book will be eating in every scene they are in, much like Brad Pitt's character.
2. Molly will have already changed beyond all recognition physically, mentally, and magically.
3. Ramirez is angry with Harry for not keeping him in the loop.
4. The White Council will finally believe Harry has gone warlock and will attempt to kick him off the council. Eb, the Gatekeeper, and others will push it to a full vote of the council. The merlin will list everything Harry has done that is terrible. Someone will stand for Harry and defend him, listing all of the times he has prevented catastrophe. Surprisingly, the council will vote to keep Harry on the white council. He will be stripped of his title as Warden, but will still be THE Warden of DemonReach.
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