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Has Mab become something more? [CD Spoilers]
Gman:
--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on March 05, 2013, 09:25:47 AM ---Here is a quote:
“I thought Mab’s wrath was pretty bad until I found out what her affection was like.”
Mab''s idea of sweet is 77 attempted murder. See how much she makes the effort to prepare Harry? She probably believe that if Harry really dies in those trainning attempts it will be the best thing for Harry ever.
Same withhiring him to find the summer knight mantle in SK and when Mab takes away Harry's fire magic in Smf.
Mab is just taking good care of his most beloved Harry dresden.
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Mab believes in tough love. ::) I'm not saying Mab is all kind, sweet and lovey dovey with Harry. It is not in Mab's nature to be that way. I'm just saying she is nicer to Harry than how she treats others of his station. Look how Maeve was treating Slate. Mab was putting Harry in WK boot camp so he would survive confronting Maeve, her posse and the Outsiders. She was not trying to kill him. If Harry died in training it would be an easier death than in the field.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Gman on March 05, 2013, 10:04:05 AM ---Mab believes in tough love. ::) I'm not saying Mab is all kind, sweet and lovey dovey with Harry. It is not in Mab's nature to be that way. I'm just saying she is nicer to Harry than how she treats others of his station. Look how Maeve was treating Slate. Mab was putting Harry in WK boot camp so he would survive confronting Maeve, her posse and the Outsiders. She was not trying to kill him. If Harry died in training it would be an easier death than in the field.
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I think Mab respects Harry, but she will use him as she must. Her nature is hard and sometime cruel, she shows no mercy, but that is what she has to be in the fight against the empty night. Whatever "humanness" in her nature, whatever soul has been surpressed long ago by the task at hand. Harry now understands that about her, Kringle reenforced that notion as well. Mab realizes she can trust Harry so she allowed him to glimpse that moment of vulnerability after Maeve died in her grief.. However she cannot afford to have others view her moment of "weakness," so as Kringle said, never put her in that position in front of others, she'd tear him apart. So has Mab changed? Yes, in that she trusted Harry enough to let him see her weakness in a moment of pain.. And no, she still is the Queen of Winter and Darkness, the same cold hard bitch she always was, we and Harry now just understand her better.
huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: Gman on March 05, 2013, 10:04:05 AM ---Mab believes in tough love. ::) I'm not saying Mab is all kind, sweet and lovey dovey with Harry. It is not in Mab's nature to be that way. I'm just saying she is nicer to Harry than how she treats others of his station. Look how Maeve was treating Slate. Mab was putting Harry in WK boot camp so he would survive confronting Maeve, her posse and the Outsiders. She was not trying to kill him. If Harry died in training it would be an easier death than in the field.
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I don't doubt the effectiveness of Mab's method. Considering Harry's temperament , it is probably the fastest trainning method for him.
But I really won't assign the word sweet anywhere near Mab. She did not do all of that because she have any real affection for Harry. She did not do all that because she wanted the best for Harry. I don't believe that. She did all that because it is the most effective way to forge Harry into a weapon.
Slate may be a winter knight like Harry, but Slate is a Club while Harry is a sharp sword. Slate is a knight for intimidation while Harry is a knight for annihilation. It only make sense if Harry is trained differently.
No love for Harry, none whatsoever. Her vulnarable moment? Well, Harry already knows. That is why Harry could asked that particular question. There is no harm to reveal her vulnarability when no one else is around.
Why not train a knight like Harry all the time? Well, talent is hard to come by and a knight like Harry is quite dangerous. The queen is vulnarable against her knight so having a knight like Harry in peace time is stupid and dangerous. You only build a weapon when you have a target in mind. Especially if that particular weapon can be used against you.
Mira:
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Slate may be a winter knight like Harry, but Slate is a Club while Harry is a sharp sword. Slate is a knight for intimidation while Harry is a knight for annihilation. It only make sense if Harry is trained differently.
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Slate may have been used in that way, but Slate was a monster and a thug, where Harry isn't. The difference is Slate's will was weak to begin with, so he was dominated by the mantle.. Slate as near as we can tell was an ordinary vanilla mortal before he wore the mantle so it presented all kinds of temptations in the direction of his baser nature, which he fully indulged in.. Both Mab and Maeve understood him very well and used his weaknesses against him. While the sex act with Mab may have been a ritual necessity when Harry became Knight... Harry didn't become totally seduced and addicted to the pleasure no matter how incredible the act with Mab.. Simply because he understands what Mab is. Maeve must have controlled Slade sexually and showed her lack of perception by thinking that she could seduce and control Harry in the same way, that of course backfired, because Harry also understood what Maeve was. However, Slade a guy from the streets did become addicted, it was also one of the ways Mab tormented him after he was found out to be a traitor.
Ms Duck:
In Harry's a sharp sword, slade wasn't a club. he was a toothbrush.
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