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Proof that Time Travel Harry did not fix Little Chicago?? (CD Spoilers)
Ms Duck:
Please note, DR told Bob very diluted information, who then told Harry very diluted information, who then told US very diluted information.
and there is no reason to assume DR told anything close to the whole truth. And plenty to assume much of the island is on a need to know basis.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Cenphx on February 12, 2013, 12:07:34 AM ---If you say, well, Future Harry always was going to fix LC, so he is not changing the past, he is making it happen the way it was always supposed to, then there would be no such thing as changing the past because every action Future Person takes is always the action they would have taken and the past is never altered [/u]. Yet we know from Odin’s speech that such a thing is possible, though difficult.
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Why would we assume that closed time-travel loops and altering the past can't both happen in the same universe ?
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on February 12, 2013, 01:17:06 AM ---sorry griff, I doubt Odin's that strong. we are talking white god level, there. ;)
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I remain to be convinced that what's needed here is brute strength rather than moderate strength plus significant skill and smarts.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 12, 2013, 01:28:40 AM ---The time at which the attack commenced was the night of December 31st. From that place and time, Maeve and Lily created a time-distortion field. Their attack then branched out through time, attacking from multiple times. That's how Bob describes the attack early in CD. In doing so, it impacted the wards at DR, which then caused the ripples which everyone sensed.
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Are we absolutely sure that by the end of CD every level of that attack on Demonreach has been countered ? That there aren't other components further in the past or future ?
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on February 12, 2013, 01:49:09 AM ---- a prisons wall have to be strong enough to hold the prisoners. Some of them are likely Titans, or worse.
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The metaphor to come to mind here is Marcone's pit at the end of FM. Seems to me that the wall of that, being soft mud with no traction, would stop a loup-garou climibing out as easily as it stops Harry. Brute strength is again not the only way.
--- Quote ---- the prison all has to be strong enough to contain their natures. If having someone of titan class (mother winter) on earth is enough to accidentally flatten the planet, how strong does a shield to contain that have to be?
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We see in TC that the skinwalker has a minor reality-warping effect; it is how Harry realises there's something to look at with his Sight, right at the beginning. We see DR containing that easily.
I don't suspect strong shields. I suspect constrant draining, into leylines, and possibly also into the NN.
--- Quote --- - Merlin cast the spell that made the outer ward. I doubt he built the whole thing; for one point , DR itself is much older then the ward is.
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An asserion which seems premature when we only have a lower bound for how far Merlin traveled through time.
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