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The Gatekeeper fixed LC and other PG musings [spoilers up to CD]
Theonlyspiral:
Molly? Is that you?
wyltok:
--- Quote from: wizard nelson on February 14, 2013, 01:11:28 PM ---hows this forsight? because the WG is omnipotent and knows harry's dumb ass has to save the world one day so he pulls fat from fryer? WG intervenes all the time even to people who don't actually believe like sanya.
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she doesn't need it, she has proven capable of following the actions of WG archangels in Smf and GS. the WG and mab have had interest in positive outcomes in multiple books. and either by incidence or design do work along side each other. so :P
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So out of curiosity, if Mab is willing to rely on the WG's team stopping Dresden from using LC while it's broken, why isn't she relying on them also fixing it for her when she needs it fixed? It's one thing for Mab to rely on Uriel doing his job (intervening when the Big L does something on Earth), it's quite another for her to continuously rely on angelic intervention when she finds it convenient, particularly since she knows she can't control how they will intervene (they could have just as easily sent Mister to run around the model messing everything up and forcing Harry to start from scratch).
Also, keep in mind, the Fae cannot accept favors or gifts without providing something in return. If she's relying on the WG's help on this, that means she owes him. So this is both having faith, and ending up owing favors... it just strikes me as un-Mab-like, you know?
--- Quote from: wizard nelson on February 14, 2013, 01:20:45 PM --- that doesn't do it for me. winters favor? so? nothing about scrying tool needing fixing?
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The thought process is fairly straight-forward, in my opinion:
"Gee, I wonder why I'm getting this prophecy about Dresden's scrying tool and a deadline? It must be important, I should probably check it out before that date."
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"Well, here I am, in Dresden's lab and here's his scrying tool... well, what do you know, there's a bug in one of the power couplings. Better fix that before he uses it, or his head will explode."
--- Quote from: wizard nelson on February 14, 2013, 01:20:45 PM ---and wouldn't he need a specific time of day? its not like night explains when harry used it. to clarify he would have had to tail harrys every move directly, mab has servants, and can blink.
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We already know that Rashid does that for important situations. He spent all of Summer Knight following Dresden around to make sure he was on hand to give him the tools he would need to save Lily. I'm just suggesting he did the same thing here, but away from Harry's sight.
Ms Duck:
the biggest problem with the gatekeeper fixed LC, for me, is this WOJ:
--- Quote ---Ask yourself why Mab had Molly brought in. What chain of events did that set in motion? What secondary effects came about because of it? Ultimately, Mab can always go to the Wyld and draw in more muscle to replace fallen thugs. If worst comes to worst, with just a few "seed" fae, she could rear up enough Changelings to repopulate her cadre within a human generation or two--nothing, to a being thousands of years old.
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It flat outright says Mab had a plan for bringing Moly in, that she did it, and she planned it.
at this point the only reason I can think of for having the gatekeeper fix LC was because Mab told him too.. he was acting as her agent.
ya see ?
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on February 16, 2013, 12:08:28 AM ---the biggest problem with the gatekeeper fixed LC, for me, is this WOJ:
It flat outright says Mab had a plan for bringing Moly in, that she did it, and she planned it.
at this point the only reason I can think of for having the gatekeeper fix LC was because Mab told him too.. he was acting as her agent.
ya see ?
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OR, JB didn't mention TTH because it's going to be a surprise later. He's not going to say "Ask yourself why Mab had Time-Travellin' Harry bring Molly in.". And why would she chose Molly at that point? Not because Harry and Molly were already so close. But maybe because TTH demanded it, so Mab took an interest in her.
ya see ? ;) :D ;D
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 16, 2013, 01:10:02 AM ---OR, JB didn't mention TTH because it's going to be a surprise later. He's not going to say "Ask yourself why Mab had Time-Travellin' Harry bring Molly in.". And why would she chose Molly at that point? Not because Harry and Molly were already so close. But maybe because TTH demanded it, so Mab took an interest in her.
ya see ? ;) :D ;D
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that's.. unique. It gets a medal for the virtue of having never been tried before.
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