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The Gatekeeper fixed LC and other PG musings [spoilers up to CD]
Ms Duck:
Im not sure precog is even required for fixing LC in pG; its juts simple deduction on her part. She knows she needs get Molly to AT and back in such a way that nemesis does not suspect the plan; ergo, harry needs to rescue her.
therefore, harry needs a way to track molly.. better make sure LC is up and working beforehand
Cenphx:
--- Quote from: wyltok on February 12, 2013, 09:54:08 PM ---
4. Let me see if I understand what you said here:
During the stolen car example in PG, Bob stated that if foresight shows the car being stolen, one can change the future, but the "stolen car" aspect of it will remain the same. From that you concluded that whatever was seen of the future couldn't have been "Harry's head explodes using LC", because that would fix the future, and changing it would be a paradox. Which of course, just means that whatever was seen of the future only suggested that LC was broken, rather than being something that outright showed Harry's head exploding, for example.
Please let me know if I understood your point correctly, and then I'll work on a more suitable reply. I must admit, it's actually a really good idea!
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Wait, isn't this the same time travel paradox we dealt with in the other thread? Frickin time travel.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on February 12, 2013, 10:29:54 PM ---Im not sure precog is even required for fixing LC in pG; its juts simple deduction on her part. She knows she needs get Molly to AT and back in such a way that nemesis does not suspect the plan; ergo, harry needs to rescue her.
therefore, harry needs a way to track molly.. better make sure LC is up and working beforehand
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It all just seems so convoluted for the result. Lea bargains with the Reds to not interfere in their war; Lea gets Infected; Mab has to cure Lea, but has to fulfill Lea's promises while she's incapacitated, so she can't act out against the Reds; so she has Molly learn dark magic, to screw with her friend's minds, so the GK detects dark magic, and out of courtesy tells Harry, so Harry has to go looking for the dark magic, so that Maeve can manipulate him into thinking its a heavy duty practitioner summoning phages, so he has to send it back on them, only to have it be Fetches, who can take Molly to Arctis Tor because Harry sent them to her, so Harry will follow them to AT to retrieve her, so that Lily can give him summer fire to fire into the wellspring, to then cause a natural reaction among winter Fae to draw everyone back to home base, allowing Maeve to slow time, keeping Winter near Arctic Tor long enough to allow Summer to then move against the Reds.
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 12, 2013, 10:53:36 PM ---It all just seems so convoluted for the result. Lea bargains with the Reds to not interfere in their war; Lea gets Infected; Mab has to cure Lea, but has to fulfill Lea's promises while she's incapacitated, so she can't act out against the Reds; so she has Molly learn dark magic, to screw with her friend's minds, so the GK detects dark magic, and out of courtesy tells Harry, so Harry has to go looking for the dark magic, so that Maeve can manipulate him into thinking its a heavy duty practitioner summoning phages, so he has to send it back on them, only to have it be Fetches, who can take Molly to Arctis Tor because Harry sent them to her, so Harry will follow them to AT to retrieve her, so that Lily can give him summer fire to fire into the wellspring, to then cause a natural reaction among winter Fae to draw everyone back to home base, allowing Maeve to slow time, keeping Winter near Arctic Tor long enough to allow Summer to then move against the Reds.
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that's not the result. the result is :
Harry becomes warden of DR
Mab lays a trap for her enemies
kills many of their agents lose on earth
makes Molly new winter lady
you are mistaking the first two moves for the endgame. When Mab plays chess, she plays fricken chess. ;D
Cenphx:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 12, 2013, 10:53:36 PM ---It all just seems so convoluted for the result. Lea bargains with the Reds to not interfere in their war; Lea gets Infected; Mab has to cure Lea, but has to fulfill Lea's promises while she's incapacitated, so she can't act out against the Reds; so she has Molly learn dark magic, to screw with her friend's minds, so the GK detects dark magic, and out of courtesy tells Harry, so Harry has to go looking for the dark magic, so that Maeve can manipulate him into thinking its a heavy duty practitioner summoning phages, so he has to send it back on them, only to have it be Fetches, who can take Molly to Arctis Tor because Harry sent them to her, so Harry will follow them to AT to retrieve her, so that Lily can give him summer fire to fire into the wellspring, to then cause a natural reaction among winter Fae to draw everyone back to home base, allowing Maeve to slow time, keeping Winter near Arctic Tor long enough to allow Summer to then move against the Reds.
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Aren't all the theories on PG and SmF complicated like this though? They ALL seem to involve 11 dimensional chess.
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