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What about the Eldest Fetch's and Lord Raiths magic immunity? I remember those two both being described similarly.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on February 07, 2013, 04:11:32 PM ---What about the Eldest Fetch's and Lord Raiths magic immunity? I remember those two both being described similarly.
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I'm inclined to put the fire being put out in Arctis Tor as being just a feature of where they were rather than anything else, force spells worked just fine against Eldest Fetch for example and fire spells used against it outside Arctis Tor simply did the "splash off harmlessly" thing rather than stopping way before they got there.
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--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on February 07, 2013, 04:19:25 PM ---I'm inclined to put the fire being put out in Arctis Tor as being just a feature of where they were rather than anything else, force spells worked just fine against Eldest Fetch for example and fire spells used against it outside Arctis Tor simply did the "splash off harmlessly" thing rather than stopping way before they got there.
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I found Neuros argument pretty convincing:
--- Quote ---Here is my preferred working hypothesis for what's going on in PG:
The Scarecrow is a "Black Council" agent - in this case a Circle agent.
Compare, Harry, p.476 of PG pb: "Consider all these things running around with more power than they should have had." With p.366 ibid "This thing was no fetch, no changer of form and image and illusion. There was no shadowy mask over an amorphous form, no glamour altering its appearance, which my salve would have enabled me to see through. This thing was a whole independent creature. Except maybe it was a fetch so old and strong... " (Emphasis mine.) The "old strong fetch" theory is not what one might call confirmed.
Compare also, p. 368 ibid, "A lance of flame as thick as my wrist lashed out from the tip of the rod - and died two feet away from it, the burning energy of the strike swallowed by an unfathomable ocean of cold cold power." That's not how entities toughing it out against Harry's fire from sheer resilience behave - see Grum in Reuel's apartment in SK, see Ursiel in DM. What it is reminiscent of is Lord Raith's immunity to magic. Which we are pretty certain is Outsider based, which leads back to the Circle again.
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Now "cold cold power" isn't exactly specific to the Outsiders of course. However, the similarity to Lord Raiths magic immunity clinches it for me (sorry to ask you again but a quote would be great).
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Proven Guilty Chapter 28 ---The resulting cannonball of blazing force struck the Scarecrow head-on while it was twenty feet away, exploding into a column of searing red flame, an inferno of heat and light that went off with enough force to throw the thing halfway across Lake Michigan.
Imagine my surprise when the Scarecrow stepped through my spell as if it had not existed. Its eyes regarded me with far too much awareness, and its arm moved, striking-snake fast.
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This the quote you wanted me to provide?
123456789blaaa:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on February 07, 2013, 04:57:35 PM ---This the quote you wanted me to provide?
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I was talking about the description of Lord Raiths magic immunity actually. Sorry for not being clear :-[.
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