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[All Spoils] Key Words for Outsider Magic and Mordite
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on February 07, 2013, 05:00:26 PM ---I was talking about the description of Lord Raiths magic immunity actually. Sorry for not being clear :-[.
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--- Quote from: Blood Rites Chapter 41 ---And felt nothing. Not just empty air and drifting dust, but nothing. A cold and somehow hungry emptiness that filled the space where he should have been. I'd felt something like it before, when I'd been near a mote of one of the deadliest substances that any world of flesh or spirit had ever known. My power, my magic, the flowing spirit of life, just vanished into it without getting near Raith.
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Here you go.
Ben de Wal:
You should add empty to your list. that’s how lord raith felt to harry when he has outside protection
madness:
I think that the empty, hungry part is probably key.
A 'reactive' coldness, perhaps.
I actually think that the mordite descriptions might tell us more about Outsider key words than the magic descriptions.
wizard nelson:
i've had this idea, and i'm not sure if its original or not. but it seems to me using black magic twists you because magic is what weaves reality and the 'firmament' together. to use it against its design opens the way for the decadent energy of outside to get in you. sorta like a backlash effect. was waiting to make a theory thread on it after i could explain it better. but to summarise, black magic is related to outside energy and this is why it twists you, indeed why the laws were made originally. (harry being starborn gives him his natural affinity for dark magic IMO) could be way off, but i believe there is a connection. also seems like only mortals can use black magic,(or should i say use magic that is considered black? sidhe do things considered black magic in mortal hands without actually twinging their magic 'color') could this be because only mortals have choice? same with opening a summon from beyond.(not counting the fraud vampire who i don't consider immortal enough)
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Ben de Wal on February 07, 2013, 06:38:55 PM ---You should add empty to your list. that’s how lord raith felt to harry when he has outside protection
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The analysis is specifically looking for common terminology between Outsiders' magic description and mortal magic descriptions. My hesitance to include "hungry"/"empty" is due to the lack of association with the Outsiders. Mordite is described as empty and hungry, and consumes everything from our reality. And Raith's magic is also listed as "empty". But I don't think we have evidence in the books that Raith's magic immunity is tied to Outsiders. There may have been a WoJ on it a while back, but I haven't read it recently.
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on February 07, 2013, 12:48:19 PM ---It looks more like he's saying that it's doubtful they're infected really. ;D
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Doubtful that they're infected. I'm convinced they're involved, but they may have avoided actual infection. They seem to fall more into Duck's theories about mortals wielding Outsiders as a weapon.
But the evidence was from DB. Cowl was also badly injured at the end of that, and we haven't seen him properly in action since then. So it's possible he's become infected by CD, but we don't know.
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