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The Leather Duster time travel theory
macgregor98:
--- Quote from: Ben de Wal on December 29, 2012, 05:20:50 PM --- how do you get darker by using power power of light ? i can see hellfire making harry darker in goash story harryused his soul use magic and i didn' change the person he is
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I would argue that to some extent the intention of the power use matters as much as the source of the power. The use of soulfire to create a construct that kills, however accidentally, would be a misuse of the power. On the other hand the use of Hellfire to defend another, without killing, is good. Simplistic I know, but it illustrates my point.
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: Rasins on December 30, 2012, 07:02:58 PM ---Ms. Duck,
I think your Model is flawed (as are most models of systems).
I do believe that everything of a certain bent has a connection. But I believe that free will throws a curve into the system that you don't take into consideration. I think that's the wild card in the whole system that isn't supposed to include humans. Maybe they are the "Users" (to take a term from Tron) of the system?
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im not sure where free will woudl enter the question. the constructs themselves- Bob, the Archive, the mantle- have none.
the owner/ host of the construct has some, at least until they give up. I think Mab has been fighting the issue since day 1, and will never give up, just because she's Mab.
rekshek:
--- Quote from: macgregor98 on December 30, 2012, 09:53:58 PM ---I would argue that to some extent the intention of the power use matters as much as the source of the power. The use of soulfire to create a construct that kills, however accidentally, would be a misuse of the power. On the other hand the use of Hellfire to defend another, without killing, is good. Simplistic I know, but it illustrates my point.
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This is my point exactly, and it turns the question into will Harry corrupt soulfire or change the winter mantle first?
GrandPanjandrum:
--- Quote from: french engineer on December 30, 2012, 03:15:12 PM ---I'm sorry, but it seems to me a lot of your theory hinges on subconscious!Harry wearing the duster before the duster makes an appearance. Doesn't the new coat, the one that is definitely not the black leather duster, mean that the future!Harry you say is subconscious!Harry comes from before Cold days?
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Hence the phrase that seems to be more important that any other... "No matter where you go, there you are." Somewhere in this series (I forget where) there is a conversation between Harry and someone else where it's stated that linear time really doesn't exist, but that's how a mortal's mind perceives time. It could have been Uriel, or maybe Leanansidhe. I think it was in Ghost Story. Einstein would agree since he spent his last few years as a scientist stating that past, present and future all exist simultaneously. They are a single existence.
In other words... "No matter where you go, there you are."
rekshek:
--- Quote from: GrandPanjandrum on December 31, 2012, 12:03:47 AM ---Hence the phrase that seems to be more important that any other... "No matter where you go, there you are." Somewhere in this series (I forget where) there is a conversation between Harry and someone else where it's stated that linear time really doesn't exist, but that's how a mortal's mind perceives time. It could have been Uriel, or maybe Leanansidhe. I think it was in Ghost Story. Einstein would agree since he spent his last few years as a scientist stating that past, present and future all exist simultaneously. They are a single existence.
In other words... "No matter where you go, there you are."
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It twas Uriel, page 470 hard cover copy, chapter fifty one.
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