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The Red Court Lives....sort of (Spoilers Changes, GS, and CD)
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--- Quote from: kalinowt on December 15, 2012, 06:46:36 AM ---It's stated quite clearly that the Red King was the originator of his entire species. The curse was set up as a line curse: youngest of a line to oldest. Susan was the youngest vampire and therefore the line curse went all the way up to the oldest Red King wiping out his entire line. There would be no RC without the King and no taint. Otherwise please re-read the final chapters of Changes again. It's all quite clearly stated by Harry in the aftermath of Susan's death.
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Actually, never mind. I need to reread Changes again, I'm getting confused on the details of the bloodline curse...
Cenphx:
Um. What is it you think im not comprehending? Susan was a half vamp. She gave birth to Maggie. Therefore, at best, Maggie received only a portion of vampire-ness, if such a thing is hereditary in RCV, which we have no textual evidence to support, that Im aware of. Please point me to it if I missed something. Susan became a full vamp then was killed. Her death not only killed full vamps, but killed the vamp portion of half vamps younger than her, as noted in Changes at the pages I quoted. Therefore, even if Maggie inherited some portion of vampirness from her mother, she, like all partial vamps youunger than Susan, would have this burned out of her upon Susan's death. Therefore, TheCuriousFan was right. Where does my logic fall apart?
kalinowt:
--- Quote from: wizard nelson on December 15, 2012, 06:50:09 AM ---it never says this is because he died, i got the book in my lap.. again arianna was to have him killed anyways..
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I think you have built a theory around Maggie and you are having a tough time letting it go. I can only go by what's written in the book and I have told you that already. Re-read it again and see if you feel the same way after. :)
catnip13:
--- Quote from: wizard nelson on December 15, 2012, 06:43:52 AM ---2your reading it wrong, her moment of 'birth' was when she killed martin... already said this..
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Ok, in that case Maggie's purported infection is older than Susan's and therefor susceptible to the curse.
wizard nelson:
--- Quote from: catnip13 on December 15, 2012, 07:05:06 AM ---Ok, in that case Maggie's purported infection is older than Susan's and therefor susceptible to the curse.
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your ignoring my supposition. maggie doesn't have a demon inside, nothing to kill... its a bit of energy. halflings have the hunger demon as per lea lulling it to sleep... can no one follow my logic? i'll try to explain, but yes it is based off some theoretical stuff, nothing you've said has directly circumvented it though.... i've rebuffed a few things as false actually.
give me few numbered problems with my theory, its easier if i know were your confused
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