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TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: madness on December 14, 2012, 07:34:18 AM ---Opposite magic from what he did in White Night.
He didn't suck the heat energy out of the water (with the ice being a by-product of his magic) - he poured winter cold into the water (with the ice being the intended result).
BTW, does anyone else get a nifty 'fuel/air bomb' type of vision when reading some of the scenes where he is sucking power to use? The lightning powered spell in Storm Front or the "sucking the heat out of things to power fire" spells in White Night as examples.
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Fair enough, though you have to wonder where the heat is going when he throws "spheres of condensed, absolute zero cold" at people.
And what do you mean fuel/air bomb vision?
salahaldin:
ms duck, think you might be a little low on your power estimates, if only because any magic emanating from Mab (either by choice or by happenstance) should have been grounded by the water (ie the big damn lake). so any cold front would actually require much more energy (Im remembering molly and the fog and the fairies on jet-skies). I see it this way: if the cold front would usually take some amount of energy to create, and water counteracts this (both due to "leaching" the magic away and due to the high specific heat of water) Mab would have to use some amount of magic in serious excess to any calculation. we know that fairies are limited in their magic in/on/around water (see the above mentioned fog incident with the fairy assassins). Anyway, just my two cents.
madness:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on December 14, 2012, 07:39:25 AM ---Fair enough, though you have to wonder where the heat is going when he throws "spheres of condensed, absolute zero cold" at people.
And what do you mean fuel/air bomb vision?
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I will make the science geeks cringe if I try to explain it but when a fuel/air bomb detonates it sucks in all of the air around it and then that oxygen creates a secondary (and larger) explosion.
When they used them on/in tunnels in Afghanistan they could kill people who weren't even burned (either the force of the oxygen being sucked down the tunnels or simply the lack of oxygen after the explosion uses it all).
It is just one of those visually fascinating reactions (sort of like some of the scenes in the movie backdraft or like the videos of a nuclear blast) that sticks in your mind.
I just sort of get the same 'vibe' from the way that some of the acts of magic are described in the series.
wizard nelson:
--- Quote from: salahaldin on December 14, 2012, 08:58:05 AM ---ms duck, think you might be a little low on your power estimates, if only because any magic emanating from Mab (either by choice or by happenstance) should have been grounded by the water (ie the big damn lake). so any cold front would actually require much more energy (Im remembering molly and the fog and the fairies on jet-skies). I see it this way: if the cold front would usually take some amount of energy to create, and water counteracts this (both due to "leaching" the magic away and due to the high specific heat of water) Mab would have to use some amount of magic in serious excess to any calculation. we know that fairies are limited in their magic in/on/around water (see the above mentioned fog incident with the fairy assassins). Anyway, just my two cents.
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water seems to be mabs domain though, as she tells harry in GS and the lady in the lake act in DB.running water is different maybe, but is just a lake.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: wizard nelson on December 14, 2012, 09:23:21 AM --- water seems to be mabs domain though, as she tells harry in GS and the lady in the lake act in DB.running water is different maybe, but is just a lake.
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The lake is still a massive stopper for spells, it's part of why Demonreach was built there according to Odin IIRC.
Though she's probably a good enough water magic user that running water doesn't really bother her.
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