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[CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
Dust Bunny:
--- Quote from: jyn8462 on December 07, 2012, 02:55:59 AM --- I just want to ask his, but is Kringle a mantle, like the Knight of Winter/Summer, or is it just a mask for Odin when he feels like it?
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That is an extremely good question.
My guess (and it is just a guess) is that Kringle is a mask, not a mantle. If someone were to manage to kill Odin, then the mask of Kringle might become a Mantle, but as of right now, it's simply a mask.
lunyboy:
--- Quote from: Dust Bunny on December 07, 2012, 03:04:42 AM ---That is an extremely good question.
My guess (and it is just a guess) is that Kringle is a mask, not a mantle. If someone were to manage to kill Odin, then the mask of Kringle might become a Mantle, but as of right now, it's simply a mask.
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Yeah, once you get to a certain level of power, the different "masks" as Odin calls them are more like aspects of their existence, the way all of the upper-tier beings have many names, and have adapted their abilities and signifiers to the disposition of their myths.
Ezakra:
The office of each of the queens is a mantle, just like the winter knight, Mab was once mortal before she ascended through a rite similar to the dark hallow as per WOJ, so, I am sure, is Mw. She is also Baba Yaga of the iron teeth and cleaver, she is also Atropos and Skuld, who was the original and what powers are innate to her? Unknown, but I think we have WOJ that the last ice age was the transition of the old Mother S to the current one, so that dates her somewhat...
Each of the immortals seem to add a mantle that has current relevance in order to maintain power in opposition to the Oblivian War. Ivy is the enemy of all of them, odd that she is a signatory to the accords...
Dust Bunny:
--- Quote from: Ezakra on December 07, 2012, 04:14:34 AM ---Each of the immortals seem to add a mantle that has current relevance in order to maintain power in opposition to the Oblivian War. Ivy is the enemy of all of them, odd that she is a signatory to the accords...
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Hmmm ... is the complete oblivion of all non-mortals part of the goal of the Oblivion War? I thought they were only after the nasty things that preyed on humanity.
KurtinStGeorge:
So it is highly likely Mother Winter's lost walking stick is now known as the Blackstaff. So what would Harry do if Eb were to die (In battle or murdered) and Harry picked up the staff. Would he accept the post of the new Blackstaff; assuming it was offered to him, or would he return Mother Winter's walking stick to her?
With the first option Harry gets to break all the laws of magic and do everything he despises without going insane. The second option puts the staff back in the hands of a being that thinks that Mab is too soft.
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