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[CD spoilers] Proven Guilty
Elegast:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 14, 2012, 08:38:31 PM ---There is one point I want to question, though; this discussion seems to be operating on the basis that the withdrawal of winter forces to protect the Wellspring affected the forces at the Outer Gates as well as those on the border with Summer. Have we any firm textual basis for that, or is it an assumption ?
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Assumption. It's based on Lea saying 'all of winter', and this WOJ which is quite explicite:
--- Quote ---Also, it has probably occurred to more than one of you that if Mab was /really/ in trouble, she could have had the entire military might of Faerie back at the fortress in moments--exactly the way they *did* come back when Harry smacked the Winter Well with the fires of Summer.
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Elegast:
--- Quote from: DFJunkie on December 14, 2012, 09:26:05 PM ---"Mab fixed little Chicago" is practically a slam dunk now that we know Faeries can cross thresholds if they have a benevolent purpose.
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It's really credible. But Time Travel Harry is really strong too.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: ntribley on December 14, 2012, 09:14:12 PM --- The only reason given was that in her they would really be able to chow down on a fear feast, but the truth was, Molly came through that incident apparently unscathed. Sure, she found out that she'd broken one of the Laws of Magic, was nearly beheaded, became Harry's apprentice, and found she had to live with her family and finish high school. But she certainly doesn't exhibit the signs that her psyche had been shredded by the fetches. Far from it. So what were they doing with her the whole time they held her in Arctis Tor? Doesn't look like they were doing much of anything.
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Examining her really carefully to get the best info for later influencing/manipulation of her to proceed, perhaps ?
madness:
--- Quote from: Serack on December 04, 2012, 07:09:24 PM ---Nemesis is still rather enigmatic though.
Is the piece of Nemesis in all infected beings completely in tune with (communicating with) all the others making for perfect cordination? What is necessary for the infection to spread?
Something tells me that Nemesis's control over a being is more effective if it remains subtle, or it can get more use out of said being if the being still retains its own identity. This closely parallels my understanding of Denarian's relationships with their hosts, and is based off of our experiences with Cat Sith. It appears that Cat Sith was not wholy a willing participant in nemesis's plans and as such was not as much of a bad ass. However, Maeve and other Nemesis operatives were truely ambitious and acting out these ambitions in a way that segued with Nemesis's plans and thus were more effective operatives...
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We see this with mind control via magic and with vampire mind control as well so it would make sense for any other forms of mind control to follow similar rules and patterns.
The more that you screw with a mind the more likely that mind is to begin breaking down and operating less effectively.
madness:
--- Quote from: Elegast on December 14, 2012, 09:49:35 PM ---Assumption. It's based on Lea saying 'all of winter', and this WOJ which is quite explicite:
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This could easily be a situation where Jim was forced to lie or fudge the truth in order to avoid a huge spoiler.
The 40,000 troops protecting the heart of winter could easily be what he was referencing at that point since only Jim himself knew about the troops at the Outer Gates.
Even after Cold Days I had never considered the possibility that the troops at the Outer Gates had left their posts. It just seems so stupid and foolish that I can't imagine that it was possible.
If Mab would sacrifice all of Winter in order to protect the Outer Gates then how would the forces at the Outer Gates possibly justify leaving to defend Arctis Tor unless Mab specifically ordered it?
I have a feeling that the forces out there would stay at their posts while both the mortal world and Faerie fell into ruins if it came to that.
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