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[CD spoilers] Small Favor
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: IndeedProceed on December 18, 2012, 08:44:42 PM ---Right, I'm 100% on board here. Fix warned Harry, against the spirit of the command given him, and informed him how to at least postpone his near-death experiences.
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I'm saying, against the letter of the command given him, but that in the spirit; because if it were against the spirit, Titania would have made it against the letter.
knnn:
This ties into something that's been niggling at me for a while:
--- Quote ---“Indeed,” he said. “You were made an Esquire of Summer, and granted a boon, but…” He shook his head. “A boon can be a matter of importance, but not one this grave. Thou canst not ask me to yield to thee in a matter of conflict between the Courts themselves.”
“I won’t,” I said. “But just so we’re clear. Once both of us have left this island, the matter is closed?”
...
<snip doughnut conversation>
...
He bowed his head in reply. “Understand, young wizard, I may not aid thee further.”
“You’re pushing the rules enough already,” I said dryly. “Believe me. I know how that is.”
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Emphasis mine.
Remember, that at this point, neither Marcone nor the Archive are in play, so the only thing remaining is the formality of officially leaving the island. The fact that "Eldest" even mentions the notion of aiding Harry further almost implies to me that Harry could have requested him (e.g.) to stomp on all the remaining Denarians and their goons before continuing the "contest", and Eldest would have obliged him. Harry (of course) misses this hint but finds a less efficient (but FAR cooler) solution with his doughnut request.
Lord Rae:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 14, 2012, 08:16:07 PM ---
Question it raises for me, though; if Nemesis-through-Namshiel is working towards entrapping and infecting the Archive, what's Nemesis-through-Maeve's motive in sending in the hobs ? Crossed wires or variant motives among the Nemesis hosts seems to run counter to what we are told in CD about the nature of Outsiders.
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If you want the Archive to stop trusting Harry how would you do it? Nemesis/Maeve sends the Hobs right as Harry shows up and Harry is the winter emissary. Doesn't the Hob attack feel more like a mortal underestimating the Archive than Mab or Maeve underestimating her? Nevermind the other people there, there was no chance of that attack doing anything other than making the people there question Winter's motives. Heck maybe the reason Tiny showed up when he did was so that Harry wouldn't reach the archive at the inappropriate time?
Winter creatures acting to help the coming darkness is an ongoing theme throughout several of the books and all of it has created is tension between Mab and potential allies. Which also makes me kind of wonder if the spiders in Turncoat were there on orders from Maeve as well helping the BC/Nemesis allies on the island.
kytheros:
--- Quote from: Lord Rae on December 19, 2012, 04:58:13 AM ---If you want the Archive to stop trusting Harry how would you do it? Nemesis/Maeve sends the Hobs right as Harry shows up and Harry is the winter emissary. Doesn't the Hob attack feel more like a mortal underestimating the Archive than Mab or Maeve underestimating her? Nevermind the other people there, there was no chance of that attack doing anything other than making the people there question Winter's motives. Heck maybe the reason Tiny showed up when he did was so that Harry wouldn't reach the archive at the inappropriate time?
Winter creatures acting to help the coming darkness is an ongoing theme throughout several of the books and all of it has created is tension between Mab and potential allies. Which also makes me kind of wonder if the spiders in Turncoat were there on orders from Maeve as well helping the BC/Nemesis allies on the island.
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Ah, but Harry and Michael weren't there (at Union Station) to meet the Archive and escort. They were there to retrieve Gard's samples.
Lord Rae:
And Maeve/Nemesis and or Titania knew that how?
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