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[CD spoilers] Small Favor
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 17, 2012, 04:38:05 PM ---And I don't see Tiny coming anywhere near killing Harry.
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Why do you think that?
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 17, 2012, 04:56:12 PM ---Indeed.
I would argue that Titania is following a pattern of sending her minions out on apparently hostile-to-Winter missions with the end result of helping Harry and Winter; Lily and Fix in PG also count here.
I would also argue that we see what happens when a Faerie Queen really wants someone not to act against their interest in Mab's treatment of Slate and infected!Lea. No loopholes there at all.
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There's a whole world of difference difference between "I don't want you doing anything" and "I want you to still be active but don't want you to do a certain thing". What Mab did with Slate and Lea was the former, what Titania did with Fix and Lily was the latter.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on December 18, 2012, 08:12:25 AM ---Why do you think that?
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Because in the text he doesn't. Harry defeats him handily.
--- Quote ---There's a whole world of difference difference between "I don't want you doing anything" and "I want you to still be active but don't want you to do a certain thing". What Mab did with Slate and Lea was the former, what Titania did with Fix and Lily was the latter.
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I'm not finding it particularly credible that Titania could repeatedly - with Fix and Lily in PG, with Fix in SmF, and with Eldest at the end of SmF - almost, but not quite, prevent her forces from helping Harry; I find it much easier to believe, given that the outcomes of those books benefit Faerie pretty much equally (Denarian Ivy is equally bad news for Summer or Winter), that Titania is getting what she wants while preserving plausible deniability.
IndeedProceed:
--- Quote from: Elegast on December 17, 2012, 04:50:23 PM ---May I remind you this conversation between Harry and Fix: (Fix made no move toward the shotgun.
“Harry,” he said, as the truck started to pull out. His mouth twitched a few times before he blurted, “Remember the leaf Lily gave you.”)
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But they were using the leaf to track Harry. That's what Fix was talking about. Elder Gruff explicitly said that the favor guaranteed by the leaf wasn't in its self enough to grant Harry his life, so either Fix is crappy at helping people, or that was a whole 'nother thing.
THE_ANGRY_GAMER:
--- Quote from: IndeedProceed on December 18, 2012, 08:18:49 PM ---But they were using the leaf to track Harry. That's what Fix was talking about. Elder Gruff explicitly said that the favor guaranteed by the leaf wasn't in its self enough to grant Harry his life, so either Fix is crappy at helping people, or that was a whole 'nother thing.
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Except that was what tipped Harry off to the fact that they were tracking him via the leaf, and gave him the idea of the the LC-Mister-Catnip trick.
IndeedProceed:
--- Quote from: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 18, 2012, 08:40:42 PM ---Except that was what tipped Harry off to the fact that they were tracking him via the leaf, and gave him the idea of the the LC-Mister-Catnip trick.
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Right, I'm 100% on board here. Fix warned Harry, against the spirit of the command given him, and informed him how to at least postpone his near-death experiences.
I was saying that Fix telling harry to remember the leaf wasn't fix telling Harry to remember the leaf when a short humanoid wizard killing billy goat confronts you on a sentient island.
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