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[CD spoilers] Cowl = Simon reference thread
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: madness on January 14, 2013, 08:47:58 PM ---It is definitely possible.
It would just take a century or two for that wizard to get to Cowl's level.
We also have no in-universe examples of this being done. Only examples of supernatural powers kidnapping or luring magic users that don't make the radar of the White Council.
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Maggie Sr was SC level before she was a century old, imo :)
Harry is closing in. While he likely doesnt have his mother's sheer genius he does have a certain tenacity..
psuliin:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 14, 2013, 09:26:59 PM ---If they are skilled enough to fake being low-level practitioners, perhaps.
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Of course. My point was that even a Warden (Justin) was able to take two apprentices and keep them secret from the White Council until they were skilled enough to fake the Council's tests (Harry never got the chance to, of course). If Justin could do it then presumably others could. So it seems likely that there are several powerful practitioners out there who are either completely unknown to the Council or who are more powerful than the Council realizes they are.
Arjan:
Morty has council level strength though very specialised. Nobody knows.Harry discovered it only in ghost story.
But Summer Knight showed clearly that wizards on the seniority list with senior council level strength could get out of sight for years with an excuse like real married, pyramid sitting or a research trip. Cowl is probably one of those.
Nobody tells a wizard on that level what he is supposed to do with his time if he has no official job to do and even then. If he wants to live as a hermit in the outer Hebrides he is completely free to do so. And nobody stops him if he drops out of sight.
phoenixjustice:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 15, 2013, 01:20:44 AM ---Morty has council level strength though very specialised. Nobody knows. Harry discovered it only in ghost story.
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Exactly. It's been proven more than once that the Council isn't as all-seeing as people keep trying to say they are. I think the White Council is quite unaware of many things, especially during the times when they've been in the midst of all out war.
As in the case of Simon and Archangel, the fact that people seemed to think that the Council would automatically know what all happened to Simon and co. there surprises me. I put forth this idea:
--- Quote from: phoenixjustice on November 21, 2012, 05:26:08 AM ---Yeah but you have to remember that they had just got hit HARD by the rampires and were dealing with a potential traitor in the Council as well. My guess is they saw what Simon's 'Death Curse' did and saw there was no body left and put two and two together. IIRC we have no WoJ of ANYONE finding Simon's body.
Jim's answer only strengthened my faith in Simon being Cowl, because he essentially said that someone could fake a Death Curse. Sure there might be a 'trail' of sorts, but again, if something looks like a Death Curse, there isn't really a need for them to look into it, especially considering the fact that they had a lot more on their plates that had higher priority than to question whether a highly trusted wizard's Death Curse was legit or not.
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--- Quote from: phoenixjustice on November 22, 2012, 05:45:59 AM ---Exactly. TC makes that point well. And as I said before, if it looks like a Death Curse, especially from someone who was a trusted Council member, why look into it? They had more than enough proof to believe it was a Death Curse, as evidenced by the wreckage of Archangel they found. Plus? Huge war going on lol.
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Neuro also chimed in on the subject:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 21, 2012, 02:28:32 PM ---We see in TC that it takes the Council's very best forensics people to figure out even the rudiments of a magical crime scene that's in the heart of their own territory where they are totally familiar with the environment; it surpasses my belief that they could do even that well in the middle of a war zone, or would risk their best people in a war zone to get that information.
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peregrine:
Yeah, but as for that, it's the difference between "Was this a death curse" and "What did his death curse do?" They were able to determine that a death curse was not cast when LaFortier get whacked. So it's not impossible. They were trying something far far more delicate in Edinburgh than what would be required to determine if a Death Curse was cast. Then again, that assumes they even think to ask, and don't just take it as read that it happened.
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