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Second Aristh:

--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on January 10, 2013, 06:56:48 AM ---Do most of you who think Cowl=Simon also think Elaine=Kumori?   

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I'm of the mind that Cowl=Simon, but Kumori isn't really anyone else (possibly the apprentice that Simon has been mentioned having; she's more unknown than Kumori as far as we're concerned).  I don't think that Kumori=Elaine.

KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 10, 2013, 06:48:38 PM ---Not since the recent mention that Simon had a female apprentice.

Because she was never enthralled, but a free-willed associate of Justin and went to Simon for support and protection when Justin died ?

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Not bad, particularly the second point.

madness:
I have always thought it possible that Simon was possibly behind the involvement of Justin and Maggie in all of these plots in the first place.

It isn't my favorite theory but I think that the theory could be made to fit.

Simon could have swooped in and rescued Elaine in the aftermath of Justin's death.  Whether she was enthralled or not.  If Justin was training the children at the command or suggestion of Simon from the beginning then Simon would know how to track her down.

the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: madness on January 10, 2013, 08:34:25 PM ---I have always thought it possible that Simon was possibly behind the involvement of Justin and Maggie in all of these plots in the first place.

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I am fond of that notion, because I get the strong impression that knowledge about Outsiders is very rare in the DV (there's a Law against looking for it, and we see in Bob's report of the Council going all Fahrenheit 451 on Kemmler's writings in DB what the Council's policy is like with regard to information specifically about Lawbreaking), and if Simon == Cowl, we then have direct connections between everyone we've seen display knowledge of Outsiders in the series prior to CD (Justin as Simon's apprentice, and Justin and Maggie and Lord Raith linked by Eb in BR) which would be neat and orderly and Occamian.

madness:

--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 10, 2013, 09:04:47 PM ---I am fond of that notion, because I get the strong impression that knowledge about Outsiders is very rare in the DV (there's a Law against looking for it, and we see in Bob's report of the Council going all Fahrenheit 451 on Kemmler's writings in DB what the Council's policy is like with regard to information specifically about Lawbreaking), and if Simon == Cowl, we then have direct connections between everyone we've seen display knowledge of Outsiders in the series prior to CD (Justin as Simon's apprentice, and Justin and Maggie and Lord Raith linked by Eb in BR) which would be neat and orderly and Occamian.

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It also provides an easy explanation for how Maggie could have gotten involved - the heroic and powerful friend of her father that she might have sought out once she ran away from home.

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