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KurtinStGeorge:
I'm not going to go any further into the details of the, is he/isn't he debate.  It makes some sense that Cowl is a wizard with SC ability but there is nothing to really nail it down, at least not for me.

Do most of you who think Cowl=Simon also think Elaine=Kumori?  I can buy the later more than the former.  My question to those who believe both equations are true.  Has anyone put together a WAG why Elaine would hook up with the man whose apprentice enthralled her when she was a teenager?  Granted we don't have much information about Elaine after she ran away from Justin's burning house and we really know even less about Simon, but I'm hoping someone has tried to think how it might have worked. 

That raises an interesting point.  Has Jim said anything about when we might see Elaine again?  It's hard to get any more clues with her out of the picture for so long.  She was in the fourth and the ninth book. (Maybe in the seventh book too.)  I think she is overdue for an appearance.     

wizard nelson:

--- Quote from: madness on January 10, 2013, 05:42:44 AM ---Harry has not met most of the Senior Council eligible wizards.  Most of them appear to be hermits or retired or whatever.

That does not mean that the OTHER Senior Council eligible wizards are not familiar with them though.  I find it highly unlikely that people like Langtry, Eb and Rashid are not familiar with all of the 250+ year old wizards on the White Council.  They may not have seen some of them for a century or two but they would likely recognize them if they ran into them - which is the whole point of the disguise.

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a good question for jim, has cowl been seen yet without his uhh... cowl? ::)

123456789blaaa:

--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on January 10, 2013, 06:56:48 AM ---I'm not going to go any further into the details of the, is he/isn't he debate.  It makes some sense that Cowl is a wizard with SC ability but there is nothing to really nail it down, at least not for me.

Do most of you who think Cowl=Simon also think Elaine=Kumori?  I can buy the later more than the former.  My question to those who believe both equations are true.  Has anyone put together a WAG why Elaine would hook up with the man whose apprentice enthralled her when she was a teenager?  Granted we don't have much information about Elaine after she ran away from Justin's burning house and we really know even less about Simon, but I'm hoping someone has tried to think how it might have worked. 

That raises an interesting point.  Has Jim said anything about when we might see Elaine again?  It's hard to get any more clues with her out of the picture for so long.  She was in the fourth and the ninth book. (Maybe in the seventh book too.)  I think she is overdue for an appearance.     

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It's unlikely that Elaine is Kumori since she wouldn't have had to stand on tippy-toes to hold a knife to Harry's throat. There's also how she helped Harry to ruin the Circles plan's twice.

the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: phoenixjustice on January 10, 2013, 05:46:55 AM ---Exactly. His line struck me, since the council values secrecy so much, how would he know that they're 'rotting.

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Pure propaganda. He doesn't have to know anything at all about them to say they're rotting, or evil, or big meanies, or that they eat babies.  He's opposed to them so he has a motive to badmouth them.  And it's not as if they were rotting, even.

the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on January 10, 2013, 06:56:48 AM ---Do most of you who think Cowl=Simon also think Elaine=Kumori?

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Not since the recent mention that Simon had a female apprentice.


--- Quote ---  Has anyone put together a WAG why Elaine would hook up with the man whose apprentice enthralled her when she was a teenager?

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Because she was never enthralled, but a free-willed associate of Justin and went to Simon for support and protection when Justin died ?

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