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[CD spoilers] Cowl = Simon reference thread
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--- Quote from: madness on January 02, 2013, 10:07:02 PM ---1) My guess is that Cowl and Kumori were smart enough to get the heck out of Dodge once the violence kicked off. The whole point of using proxies is that you avoid taking physical risks yourself.
2) There is no definite reason that I can think of that Cowl could not be Simon as well as a servant of the Fomor.
3) A more careful re-read of Dead Beat left me with the impression that Cowl had worked with Kemmler and/or the Kemmlerites before and had a relationship with them going way back before Archangel. It is possible that this could still apply to Simon but it just doesn't quite feel right.
They treat him as a peer of sorts but not as an intense rival (like they treat each other). This makes me think that he is an ally but an outsider (not a Kemmlerite). If you look at the Kemmlerites as filling the same role as Vittorio or Bianca I think that it feels similar. An outside power offering assistance and the idiots taking the power not being smart enough to realize that they are being played.
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2) I personally don't think he's a servant of the Fomor. I beleive that he is a (high ranking) servant of the Circle and the Circle as a whole are allied with the Fomor. This explains how he can have the portals with the marshy,wet smell and have the warbling voice that is possibly caused by Fomor grafts while not being a servant of the Fomor.
3) i also think he has worked with the Kemmlerites before (but not Kemmler). I think that he did so on the orders of the Circle.
I saw them as treating him as an enemy ( I think they treated each other that way too). What makes you think that they treated him as a peer but not an intense rival?
Arjan:
--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on January 02, 2013, 10:14:39 PM ---2) I personally don't think he's a servant of the Fomor. I beleive that he is a (high ranking) servant of the Circle and the Circle as a whole are allied with the Fomor. This explains how he can have the portals with the marshy,wet smell and have the warbling voice that is possibly caused by Fomor grafts while not being a servant of the Fomor.
3) i also think he has worked with the Kemmlerites before (but not Kemmler). I think that he did so on the orders of the Circle.
I saw them as treating him as an enemy ( I think they treated each other that way too). What makes you think that they treated him as a peer but not an intense rival?
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I think Cowl is just an unlucky powerful white council member who got infected and now works for Nemesis. Probably not one we have seen much and certainly not Simon. Simon is dead.
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--- Quote from: Arjan on January 02, 2013, 10:47:23 PM ---I think Cowl is just an unlucky powerful white council member who got infected and now works for Nemesis. Probably not one we have seen much and certainly not Simon. Simon is dead.
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Would you care to present your arguments?
Arjan:
--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on January 02, 2013, 10:55:35 PM ---Would you care to present your arguments?
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For Simons dead I trust what is said about it in Summer Knight and the woj about his dead curse. Simon as traitor would not have left the white council, he was in too good a position to do loads of damage. Or, if he was behind the fall of Archangel he could have delivered the fortress without too much struggle and arranged for wizards captives to be turned by the reds. In stead we see dead curses employed.
Cowl is clearly hiding his identity that means he has an identity worth hiding. With his strength in mortal magic, he can apparently summon outsiders, and Harry's feel about his magic I think he is human.his conversations sound human as well.
He was behind Lea's infection and the coup in white night. Both actions For Nemesis. His conversation shows some imbalance that I used to attribute to black magic using but nemesis possession fits the bill as well.
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--- Quote from: Arjan on January 02, 2013, 11:21:38 PM ---For Simons dead I trust what is said about it in Summer Knight and the woj about his dead curse. Simon as traitor would not have left the white council, he was in too good a position to do loads of damage. Or, if he was behind the fall of Archangel he could have delivered the fortress without too much struggle and arranged for wizards captives to be turned by the reds. In stead we see dead curses employed.
Cowl is clearly hiding his identity that means he has an identity worth hiding. With his strength in mortal magic, he can apparently summon outsiders, and Harry's feel about his magic I think he is human.his conversations sound human as well.
He was behind Lea's infection and the coup in white night. Both actions For Nemesis. His conversation shows some imbalance that I used to attribute to black magic using but nemesis possession fits the bill as well.
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The WoJ doesn't actually say it was his death curse. It could easily have been a member of the Brute Squad who realized that Simon was Cowl. Not only that but we may also have a precedent in surviving death curses in Harry's pyrofeugo in GP. Cowl may have had Kumori ressurect him after using his death curse (to make it look more realistic to wizard examiners).
Simon is an SC level wizard so he is probably a high ranking member of the Circle and/or a person infected by Nemesis that Nemesis places a high priority on. How much damage could Simon have really done? He was a well known figure in the wizarding community and close friends with Eb and Martha Liberty (and information expert). Not only that but he was far far away from the WC headquarters.
Peabody did far more damage than Simon could ever have done.
Not only that but "dying" did tons of bad stuff to the WC and left him free to pursue the Darkhallow. It makes sense that Nemesis/the Circle would send such a powerfull operative to become a literal GOD. They of course wanted to ensure the best possible chance that they could get the prize.
If he had delvered the fortress without much struggle than the WC would have gotten suspicous. Some of the top wizards in the world are in it and they would have gotten suspicous if things weren't completely decimated. Also, the WC would have suspected something was up if there weren't any bodies. Why were there no death curses is what they would have been thinking. Also, how could he have arranged for wizard captives?
I'm not seeing how anything else in your post clashes with Simon being Cowl ???. In fact, don't they strengthen it?
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