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[CD spoilers] Cowl = Simon reference thread
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--- Quote from: madness on January 02, 2013, 08:15:17 PM ---Harry tossed out what was probably his coolest fire spell EVER.
It wouldn't surprise me if it was a death curse powered spell of some sort (since his heart stopped and Michael had to revive him).
It was like a living fire spell that would jump from one vamp to another and engulf them. Sort of like a fire snake (constrictor) spell or something. It was unlike anything that he has used since in many ways.
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Hmmm...so either Cowl left early or he didn't see the maybe-Death Curse as an example of why Harry was making the Wardens so nervous (Perhaps Harry didn't make the Wardens nervous before GP?).
--- Quote from: madness on January 02, 2013, 08:20:40 PM ---As much as I like the Simon = Cowl theory...
My most recent re-read of the series has me leaning much more strongly towards the 'Cowl is some sort of Fomor knight or Fomor ally' theory.
Probably the most important factor is that Cowl's various (confusing) motivations are more easily explained if they are taken as part of an overall Fomor strategy.
Both the Fomor and the Outsiders would need to destroy the existing supernatural powers (especially the Sidhe). The same alliance(s) that fought the Black Court could reasonably be expected to oppose the return to power of the Fomor and thus would be obvious targets for the Fomor (and the Outsiders benefit from EVERYONE getting weaker).
A re-read of Dead Beat while specifically thinking about a Cowl = Simon theory made that theory more difficult to swallow as well.
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I'm don't quite get what you're saying here. Why can't Cowl be Simon and be an ally of the Fomor?
Also can you be more specific as to why re-reading of Dead Beat while specifically thinking about a Cowl = Simon theory made that theory more difficult to swallow?
phoenixjustice:
--- Quote from: madness on January 02, 2013, 08:15:17 PM ---It wouldn't surprise me if it was a death curse powered spell of some sort (since his heart stopped and Michael had to revive him).
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Agree. Especially since I believe I was the first one to bring up the possibility. :P I used it to help strengthen the Simon is Cowl argument; because if what Harry used was a Death Curse, it shows that a wizard can use a Death Curse and survive it. So Simon could have used a Death Curse and still survived.
And left Archangel to take up a new identity...? ;D
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--- Quote from: phoenixjustice on January 02, 2013, 08:51:24 PM ---
Agree. Especially since I believe I was the first one to bring up the possibility. :P I used it to help strengthen the Simon is Cowl argument; because if what Harry used was a Death Curse, it shows that a wizard can use a Death Curse and survive it. So Simon could have used a Death Curse and still survived.
And left Archangel to take up a new identity...? ;D
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Recall that Harry needed Micheals help. Cowl would probably have needed Kumori's help.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: madness on January 02, 2013, 08:15:17 PM ---Harry tossed out what was probably his coolest fire spell EVER.
It wouldn't surprise me if it was a death curse powered spell of some sort (since his heart stopped and Michael had to revive him).
It was like a living fire spell that would jump from one vamp to another and engulf them. Sort of like a fire snake (constrictor) spell or something. It was unlike anything that he has used since in many ways.
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That was because it was a spell Kravos had. I assume you're talking about when Susan had to revive him after he used his ghost to double team the nightmare Kravos?
Yeah, that's not a death curse. It's called a death curse because it kills you, using all you've got to fuel it, leaving no energy left to maintain yourself. Harry had done the dead part first, if he did a death curse again, he'd have died, again.
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--- Quote from: peregrine on January 02, 2013, 09:22:54 PM ---That was because it was a spell Kravos had. I assume you're talking about when Susan had to revive him after he used his ghost to double team the nightmare Kravos?
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No, he's talking about the fire spell Harry uses in the middle of the book - right at the end of the masquerade. Harry's heart stops and Michael revives him.
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