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The identity of the Mothers [CD spoilers]
Phariah:
another ID of them seems to fit well. Kali the Earth Mother and Goddess of murder. they could share that title well taking different aspects.
Arkham8:
--- Quote from: Villentretenmerth on November 28, 2012, 12:18:30 PM ---It's not likely, it's fact - confirmed at the end of the book by a certain overly clever one-eyed dude.
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My question about Kringle/Odin is if they are really the "same person". Is it different aspects of the same 'power' taking on anthropization? Is it like America Gods, where the belief that the two are different lead them to actually BE different?
I guess the simple way to put it is...could Kringle and Odin be in the same room, at the same time?
--- Quote from: FirstSelector on November 28, 2012, 10:23:22 AM ---I also admit that I saw Mother Summer and Winter interacting a bit like Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg (from Discworld) in my head.
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I got that vibe myself, which is why I posited that the name Mother Winter does not appreciate is "Crone".
You know, Maiden, Mother, and...the other one.
Serack:
You really should add this WOJ to the OP :)
--- Quote from: Serack on October 16, 2010, 03:06:55 PM ---Priscillie asked Jim if the Erlking is Wyldfae at DragonCon and posted this reply:
Jim: He is wyldfae. He isn't a subject of Mab or Titania. That's what Wyldfae means. But his origins are in the Summer-side of the cycle of seasons, just like Titania's are.
Ditto Santa, only in Winter. :)
(He /is/ beholden to Mother Summer, but basically everyone in Faerie is, so.)
(I mean, that's like saying "you must obey the law of gravity." Duh.)
Priscellie: You mean the Erlking has not learned to throw himself at the ground and miss? :D
Jim: Something like that, yes. :)
If Grandma says "Dearie, I'd really like you to do this for me," you just DO it. Or granny's roommate might pick up her shears.
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I added bold and italics to the part that made me think they were the fates long before now.
Raptor:
I'll take a WAG here: They were originally Hecate (or at least were joined into 1 entity as Hecate for a while)
--- Quote ---Hecate or Hekate is an ancient goddess, frequently depicted in triple form and variously associated with crossroads, entrance-ways, fire, light, the Moon, magic, witchcraft, knowledge of herbs and poisonous plants, necromancy, and sorcery. She has rulership over earth, sea and sky, as well as a more universal role as Saviour (Soteira), Mother of Angels and the Cosmic World Soul.
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Next WAG: The 3rd entity that is missing is Mother Nature.
AnnatarLotW:
--- Quote from: FirstSelector on November 28, 2012, 01:04:26 AM ---Speculation:
If we accept that Mothers Winter and Summer have a corresponding Maiden, then we must speculate on who that would be. My best guess at the moment is that the role of the Maiden is played by the Summer Lady. It is not known what true purpose the Ladies' power fulfills, or at least it hasn't been revealed.
Given that Clotho is associated with life and giving birth, it seems more reasonable that the Summer Lady would serve in this role rather than the Winter Lady. It would also fit with the "youngness" of the Summer Lady, and it is not unreasonable to draw the connection between the Lady and Mother.
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I would dispute equating the three Fates of Greek/Roman mythology with the Maiden/Mother/Crone. The Maiden by her very nature is just that - MAIDEN. She's not gonna be having kids any time soon. That's the Mother's job - hence why she's called the Mother.
Also, most depictions of the three Fates from Greek/Roman times is of 3 Crones, not a maiden/mother/crone set.
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