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Harry is Kemmler reborn
peregrine:
--- Quote from: DragonEyes on November 24, 2012, 02:30:43 AM ---Not anywhere near the same as d-e-a-d Dead, apparently.
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Well, we don't know that, we have yet to see D-E-D dead people come back yet. (Harry was just plain old dead, yes?)
The D-E-D Dead quote is from when someone asked Jim about either Justin or Kemmler, and he responded that they were D-E-D dead. I don't know that he has gone on record as saying that Harry was D-E-D dead (or that it actually makes any kind of difference)
SAZ:
I can’t buy that Harry is Kemmler reborn.
I can buy that Harry has a natural flare for necromancy that he has not yet admitted to himself.
If Harry was Kemmler, I think that Evil Bob would have recognized him as such and rather than the "Master would have liked you" lines, Evil Bob would have said something like “Master! Do you not know your true self? Let me help you remember… blah blah… then let’s plan WWIII… etc…”
Also Harry has been soul gazed by folks like Michael and Eb and met with approval. If Harry is Kemmler then Eb and Uriel’s team are all closet evil doers molding Harry waiting for him to remember his true self.
Also while being D.E.D. dead in GS, Harry had no I am Kemmler memory flash backs while thinking about and talking to Evil Bob and the Corpstaker. Yet when he first saw Karen he had a ton of unbidden Karen/Harry flash backs.
rad:
Harry was only mostly dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead.
Every indication that we have is that Kemmler is all dead. And sure, we shouldn't completely trust Jim but so far he hasn't outright lied to us either.
DragonEyes:
--- Quote from: rad on November 24, 2012, 03:16:47 AM ---Harry was only mostly dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead.
Every indication that we have is that Kemmler is all dead. And sure, we shouldn't completely trust Jim but so far he hasn't outright lied to us either.
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Would you agree that Corpstaker was all dead or mostly dead?
rad:
I think that Corpstaker was only mostly dead. When Mort took her down Harry heard the south bound train. Every time that a spirit has disappeared we have just seen them fall apart and the memories pop out. The south bound train and angel of death are apparently for souls.
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