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Reference: X compared to Y = possible Discrepancy?
Paladino:
--- Quote from: Cruness on June 25, 2012, 02:56:17 PM ---Here is a possibility.
SK: Elaine says that Justin got to her the day she stayed home sick from school, which she says is about 2 weeks before Justin sends "That Demon" (HWWB) after Harry.
GS
(click to show/hide) From Harry's memory, the day Elaine stays home from school and the day that Justin summon HWWB, are in fact the exact same day. Harry says he only runs for about an hour. So unless Justin sent a different demon after Harry's fight with HWWB, or Elaine stayed home sick 2 weeks prior to the day Harry comes home early. We have a potential descrepency.
What do you all think?
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I'd say that she stayed home sick at two ocasions. First as 2 weeks before HWWB, when she was really sick, and justin used this chance to enthrall her. And then 2 weeks after, when Justin was sure of his hold on her (she mentions in SK that after a time she stopped fighting), he had her pretend to be sick, so she could help him prepare Harry enthralling, once Harry is stronger and a lot more stuborn than Elaine, and this is when Harry come earlier.
Well, this is at least how, assuming that she is not lying, confused or someone time traveled to change it, I read this situation. It explains hwo she was not lying, and it works with Harry memory. Of course, she could also be evil and be lying to Harry.. I just don't think so personally.
Ziggelly:
There's also the fact that he says, in SK, that:
--- Quote from: Summer Knight (Ch. 7) ---"Elaine. We were … both of us were orphans. We got adopted by the same man when we were ten."
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This was actually a pretty well-accepted fact, in my head, through the series. So there might be other references to it later on, but I wasn't able to find them anywhere.
And, yet, in GS he says:
--- Quote from: Ghost Story (Ch. 30) ---I hadn’t really been interested in girls yet when I met Elaine. We’d both been twelve...
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And, also, he's twelve in the Justin flashback later on, when he's doing a magic spell for the first time:
--- Quote from: Ghost Story (Ch. 20) ---I built up the spell again, slowly, slowly, focusing on it more intently than on anything I’d ever done in my life. And I was nearly thirteen, so that was really saying something.
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Plus, there's:
--- Quote from: WoJ ---How old were Eb and Maggie Sr when they first manifested a talent?
Same age as Harry–around 12 or 13.
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So that makes two potential backstory weirdness things in Summer Knight. If it had been the first or second book, I wouldn't have even blinked at this, really, but by the fourth he probably would've had at least the major details of Harry's backstory ironed out, especially since he was bringing Elaine back in that book, wouldn't you think?
Lind:
Don't have the books in front of me but I am pretty sure that when Harry shot Corpsetaker/Lucio's body in Dead Beat it was to her face while the description of the event in Proven Guilty was Harry shooting her in the back of the head.
mdodd:
--- Quote from: Lind on June 25, 2012, 08:51:16 PM ---Don't have the books in front of me but I am pretty sure that when Harry shot Corpsetaker/Lucio's body in Dead Beat it was to her face while the description of the event in Proven Guilty was Harry shooting her in the back of the head.
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I am just re-reading DB and Harry says he shot her underneath her cheekbone and she didn't have time to release her Death Curse (then Morgan goes into beast mode and tries to change the number of limbs and heads on Harry's body).
I don't have access to PG.
Ziggelly:
--- Quote from: knnn on June 22, 2012, 07:11:01 PM ---SK Chapter 11:I actually had a post that did exactly this, but it was purged and I never backed it up :-[. I may recreate it. The jist of it is that you need to either:
1) Assume that there were non-denarian goons at the Shedd.
2) Assume that the denarians brought "spare bodies" to the Shedd.
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*Shrug.* I'll do it.
* Urumviel (who is killed by Harry)
* One that Kincaid kills - Varthiel/Ordiel/McKullen (1/5)
* Another one that Kincaid kills- Varthiel/Ordiel/McKullen (2/5)
* Another Kincaid kill - Varthiel/Ordiel/McKullen (3/5)
* One that Ivy took care of
* Shaggy-Feathers one that Kincaid kills (4/5)
* Obsidian statue one that Kincaid kills (5/5)
* One that Luccio killed (1/2)
* One that Luccio killed (2/2)
* One that Michael/Sanya killed (1/2)
* One that Michael/Sanya killed (2/2)
* Random drowned DenarianTwelve bodies. Eleven coins. The rest of the scene completely ignores the coin that Ivy stamped her foot on after she turned it to ash (Harry just picks her up and runs, leaving it there, I guess), though, so it's not unlikely that Jim forgot about it, or didn't add that little part in until later. For argument's sake, I guess the drowned body might just have been a minion... because, really, how likely is it that one of the uber-tough-and-durable Denarians would be drowned to death? Seriously.
There would need to have only been eleven to make the coin number add up to thirty, so we know there's not an unaccounted for one:
+9 (There were nine coins with the church before Death Masks)
+4 (Ursiel, Saluriel, Lasciel, and Akariel)
+11 (killed at the aquarium)
+6 (on Demonreach: Deirdre, Rosanna, Tessa, Nick, Thorned Namshiel, and Magog)
... Unless one of the SmF Denarians got one of the coins safely in storage?
Meh. I dunno. It's probably not important, at any rate.
--- Quote from: Serack on June 22, 2012, 06:12:02 PM ---- Minor practitioner body-count in WN (AKA "the Skavis only got 1").
Not familar with it
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There was a detailed thread on it a couple of days ago, specifically for you. ;D
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