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Who recruited and trained Victor Sells?
Thork:
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I don't see where the 3I is an attack on the Reds. Marcone had a stanglehold on crime in Chicago. The 3I ring challenged his ring, and would have compromised his status. That in turn would have opened up Chicagoland to the Reds. Especially if theres a drug out there that opens new potentials to the Reds. If people get addicted to one magical drug, they'd probably more susceptible to RCV venom. The only way I see it challenging the Reds is that it runs the risk of letting the 3I users to see th RCV's true form, rather than their fleshmask illusion.
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My thought was more that Bianca's rise, and especially her management of the Velvet Room, is an indirect attack on the White Court and Raith. She's setting up a Red Court dukedom in the same town that Raith has his personal seat as King of the White Court, and she's managing a prostitution service, which is Raith business. So it makes sense for Raith to want Bianca pressured as much as it makes sense for him to be pushing against Marcone.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Thork on April 22, 2012, 06:15:37 PM ---My thought was more that Bianca's rise, and especially her management of the Velvet Room, is an indirect attack on the White Court and Raith. She's setting up a Red Court dukedom in the same town that Raith has his personal seat as King of the White Court, and she's managing a prostitution service, which is Raith business. So it makes sense for Raith to want Bianca pressured as much as it makes sense for him to be pushing against Marcone.
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True. So that would lend itself more towards a Lord Raith/Adrianna alliance, which might not have been completely mutual. I've been looking at several of the early plots, and they all seem to revolve around removing Marcone from power, thus enabling other factions to try and increase their influence in Chicago.
Maybe Harry's continual interference has kept the Circle unified longer than they would have been, had they not had a common enemy/pest.
wyltok:
I can't help but wonder why Papa Raith would teach the slimmed down version of the Red Court curse to Sells, which requires the storms to empower it, when he could just teach him the He Who Walks Behind entropy curse that requires much less power instead, and can be performed any day of the week. It can't be that he didn't know it, since we're fairly certain he killed Maggie Dresden with it. Then again, that could just be First Installment Weirdness (to use a tvtropes term).
Other than that, I like this theory, and wouldn't be surprised if you're completely right.
Locnil:
--- Quote from: wyltok on April 23, 2012, 01:26:59 AM ---I can't help but wonder why Papa Raith would teach the slimmed down version of the Red Court curse to Sells, which requires the storms to empower it, when he could just teach him the He Who Walks Behind entropy curse that requires much less power instead, and can be performed any day of the week. It can't be that he didn't know it, since we're fairly certain he killed Maggie Dresden with it. Then again, that could just be First Installment Weirdness (to use a tvtropes term).
Other than that, I like this theory, and wouldn't be surprised if you're completely right.
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It might have been due to the "the more people who know/cast it, the less powerful it its" effect.
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: wyltok on April 23, 2012, 01:26:59 AM ---I can't help but wonder why Papa Raith would teach the slimmed down version of the Red Court curse to Sells, which requires the storms to empower it, when he could just teach him the He Who Walks Behind entropy curse that requires much less power instead, and can be performed any day of the week. It can't be that he didn't know it, since we're fairly certain he killed Maggie Dresden with it. Then again, that could just be First Installment Weirdness (to use a tvtropes term).
Other than that, I like this theory, and wouldn't be surprised if you're completely right.
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What about instead of Papa Raith, some other WC vamp took Sells under his wing. We already have a strong connection between Madrigal/Madeline (am I the only one that gets them confused?) and the BC. The same stuff points to either of them as well. We already know that Madeline worked with another one trick pony in Binder...
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