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Serack:

--- Quote from: Electric MacButters on April 04, 2012, 02:10:42 AM ---Has anyone considered wether or not Harry met Thomas in his apartment?

Suppose another wizard finessed his (or her) way in past the wards once the house was emptied and started fixing LC.  (S)he takes a couple of hours to deconstruct and repair the spell matrix and starts packing up to leave.  While heading for the exit they hear Harry opening his door and cast a quick glamour to look like Thomas.  Now, this mystery mage would be waiting for the other shoe to drop, not knowing if the glamour would hold.  Since a wizard trying to secretly fix LC and help Harry would not want to risk leaving any magical clues (or break the first law) (s)he levels a shotgun as a last line of defense in the event that Harry notices the deception and attacks.

If we account for time travel it could have been Harry talking to himself disguised as Thomas while he was trying to escape from his own appartment after fixing his own broken spell.  (has your head exploded yet?)

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Mouse came in with him, and is typically immune to glamours.  Even if it were future Harry, I think Mouse would have had something other than a nonreaction.  And Thomas /did/ move out.


--- Quote from: tonync66 on April 04, 2012, 02:21:30 AM ---Just for clarification, was Bob removed from the lab at any time between him noticing the flaw and it being repaired.  If he wasn't, and it was someone Thomas let in, wouldn't Bob notice such a creature?
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the point of the OP is that Bob was out of the appt when Thomas was alone.  Well the point is a little more intricate than that, but reading the OP should give you that much.

knnn:

--- Quote from: Electric MacButters on April 04, 2012, 02:10:42 AM ---If we account for time travel it could have been Harry talking to himself disguised as Thomas while he was trying to escape from his own appartment after fixing his own broken spell.  (has your head exploded yet?)

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If you're going down the "time travelling Harry" alley, I'd simply say that Future Harry revealed himself to Thomas and made him promise not to say anything to Current Harry "or the universe will explode".

+ This would explain the nervousness Thomas has upon meeting Harry -- He's worried about paradoxageddon.

+ Heck, Thomas may even be the person who crashed that battleship of a car into Harry to prevent him from using LC earlier.

- The only weakness I see with this theory is that according to Priscellie's timeline thread, "Backup" happens after PG, and Thomas there doesn't seem to be too knowledgeable about what LC does, something you'd think he would have required Future Harry (or anyone else) to 'splain before letting him do his stuff.

P.S.
Thanks for the original analysis, Serack.  Very good way of looking at things sideways.

Byers:
Having just reread this section of PG, I am struck by Thomas's reaction to Harry coming back in and by the fact that Thomas was getting ready to move out.

To me this suggests that Thomas was home alone, both Bob and Mouse were out, and someone came took down the wards and started banging the broken door open.  Except it was not Harry.  This is why he's spooked when Harry does the same thing.

Up thread someone made the stipulation that who ever was "let in" by Thomas was okay with he and Harry being roommates.  I don't think was the case.  I think this person knew Thomas was a vamp and told him to move out.  In short I think it was Eb stopping by for a visit.  He might have stopped by to just confront Thomas, but it also gives a window of time for Eb to be the fixer of LC.

Lets also rememeber that we find out that Eb is Harry's grandfather in Changes, and there is that WoJ about after Changes we have all the clues to who fixed LC.  Having Eb be family could give him the added motivation to keep an eye on Harry.

TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote ---In short I think it was Eb stopping by for a visit.  He might have stopped by to just confront Thomas, but it also gives a window of time for Eb to be the fixer of LC.

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How did Ebenezar get past Harry's wards? How did he know how to fix Little Chicago (stated that you would need intimate knowledge of the design process IIRC)? And wasn't Thomas getting ready to move for a while?

Serack:

--- Quote from: Byers on April 04, 2012, 01:33:43 PM ---Having just reread this section of PG, I am struck by Thomas's reaction to Harry coming back in and by the fact that Thomas was getting ready to move out.

To me this suggests that Thomas was home alone, both Bob and Mouse were out, and someone came took down the wards and started banging the broken door open.  Except it was not Harry.  This is why he's spooked when Harry does the same thing.

Up thread someone made the stipulation that who ever was "let in" by Thomas was okay with he and Harry being roommates.  I don't think was the case.  I think this person knew Thomas was a vamp and told him to move out.  In short I think it was Eb stopping by for a visit.  He might have stopped by to just confront Thomas, but it also gives a window of time for Eb to be the fixer of LC.

Lets also rememeber that we find out that Eb is Harry's grandfather in Changes, and there is that WoJ about after Changes we have all the clues to who fixed LC.  Having Eb be family could give him the added motivation to keep an eye on Harry.

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Interesting.  There /was/ a lot of really awkward body language and uncomfortable silences.  I think Thomas was already planning on moving out though... hence the $ included with the note.  Another possibility for extra tension might be hinted at with the beer being cold.  There is some extra unknown and important qualities to Mac, so maybe he had something to do with it, and hence Thomas commenting about Mac not being happy if he found out about the beer being kept cold.


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