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Hick Jr:
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on August 10, 2015, 10:15:25 PM ---The PP temporary power rules already look kind of abusable to me, and I'm not keen to make them stronger. So if I used them I'd probably insist on the maneuver regardless.
Even for 8 Refresh, I don't think that'd be fair. I'm not even sure it's possible to put a fair price on the ability to acquire a point of Refresh for 2 shifts; how heavily you try to exploit the Power has such a huge effect on its effectiveness that any cost is going to be unfair to someone.
And a lot of the Power's strength depends on how strictly rituals are adjudicated, which varies wildly from table to table.
If you're really attached to the idea of temporary Items of Power, my advice is to make a new Power which lets you spend any amount of Refresh on "permission" to have that amount of temporary Powers. Then you can be granted new Powers with thaumaturgy up to your limit without taking consequences, and be granted new Powers by sponsors up to your limit without taking debt. Give one or two points of that power as the extra benefit of this magic.
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Do you think raising the number shifts needed to grant a single Refresh could balance it out, or does the nature of shifts make it too easy?
That is an excellent idea. I'll get cracking once I'm not on mobile.
Sanctaphrax:
Raising the number of shifts per Refresh point would help, but I don't think it would be a real solution.
dragoonbuster:
At this rate, you might want to just model the IoP-on-the-go thing as Modular Abilities, possibly with a little modification.
Hick Jr:
What if Gate of Babylon's extra benefit was giving you a variable abilities list that represented the treasures and their powers, and giving you form points equal to your Resources, with the Limitation of having to cast a spell equal to the amount of form points you want to access, and it only lasts one scene? It'd still be a [-5] or [-6] Magic.
Edit: Changed it to Resources. Ritual complexity is too easy to pump. Here's the revised version.
Gate of Babylon [-5]
Description: You have access to the infinite treasures contained in the vault of Gilgamesh the God-King, allowing you to call forth legendary objects from throughout history.
Sponsor:Gilgamesh.
Agenda: Gilgamesh’s agenda. Rulership. Kingly pride. The collection of more treasures.
Evocation: Gate of Babylon evocations typically involve calling forth a treasure from the vault.
Thaumaturgy: Gate of Babylon rituals typically involve displays of wealth, summoning treasures, kingship, and pride.
Evothaum: You can employ Gate of Babylon rituals that summon treasures with Evocation’s speed and methods.
Extra Benefit: You can use Gate of Babylon rituals to summon Items of Power. You can summon Items of Power of a Refresh cost up to your Resources skill by casting a Gate of Babylon evocation of complexity equal to that item’s Refresh. You may spend additional Refresh on this Sponsored Magic to increase the Refresh cap for you summoned treasures on a 1:1 basis.
Sanctaphrax:
That's even less fair. It's actually better than free Refresh equal to your Resources because you can re-assign it at will.
I still think your best bet is to pre-pay Refresh for a temporary Power budget.
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