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Why was Molly taken to Arctis Tor?
Starshine:
--- Quote from: Serack on January 24, 2012, 10:58:32 AM ---My reply in that topic at #11 includes the WoJ that we have on the likely hood of other outsiderbanes other than Harry, and it doesn't strongly support this idea.
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Let me ask a general question about WoJ - does he never change his mind? Writing is usually a fluid process. You can suddenly wake up with a great idea - even if it's not the way you were originally planning to go. Anything he said recently is probably what he intends to do [now], but older quotes might only show where his mind was tending then - 5 years ago, 7 years ago. Im only asking. Or is he the kind of writer who maps the whole series out beforehand and never deviates.
--- Quote ---The longs standing theory WRT to Mab's motivations for keeping her armies at the boarders is that she is stuck in some kind of bargain with some members of the "Black Council" that she managed to work around by using Harry as a proxy when she dragging Molly to Arctis Tor.
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I like Knnn's theory better. That she did this to point a spotlight on Molly and prevent the BC from subverting her, and also [I think] to try and entice some of the senior BC out in the open to better identify them. Both strategies worked - and that's how I see Mab - a real chess player. And Knnn's explanation fits the facts we know from the book better IMO.
The problem with the LST is why would Mab enter 'some kind of bargain' with the BC after what they tried to do to Lea. She'd be furious with them [which is why she interfered in their plans for Molly] and also extremely wary - she saw what deals with them did to Lea. I cant believe Mab would be that stupid.
--- Quote ---The DFRPG is not quite cannon, but more like if someone from the boards got to sit in Billy's head and write out all the theories while getting to ask Harry for reluctant opinions on them, but in one of the books for the RPG is a sort of power level structure of something like seven tiers. The first 3 tiers were what I payed attention to and they go something like this.
* Rarified power level that doesn't act much nowadays including TWG
* Archangels, Lucifer, the "Mothers"
* The "Queens," Ferrovax, the Erlking...
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Interesting - so the dragons have as much power as the Queens? And Michael killed one? Im surprised more Denarians arent dead. :)
And PS - thanks for the tips on how to quote - It worked!
TheCuriousFan:
The Swords appear to work by negating the opponent's power rather than making the wielder powerful, the Denarians are still around because the Knights appear to be against the idea of calling in backup (despite the fact that they could call on plenty of things wronged by the Denarians) and because the Denarians have mooks who appear to be dangerous in large numbers.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Starshine on January 24, 2012, 12:07:37 PM ---The problem with the LST is why would Mab enter 'some kind of bargain' with the BC after what they tried to do to Lea. She'd be furious with them [which is why she interfered in their plans for Molly] and also extremely wary - she saw what deals with them did to Lea. I cant believe Mab would be that stupid.
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Who said she lost in that bargain? Sure it made life more difficult but she can work around that and at the end she will probably the one getting most out of it.
--- Quote ---Interesting - so the dragons have as much power as the Queens? And Michael killed one? Im surprised more Denarians arent dead. :)
And PS - thanks for the tips on how to quote - It worked!
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The dragon Michael killed was not as powerfull as ferrofax. I believe there is WOJ about that as well.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote ---The dragon Michael killed was not as powerfull as ferrofax. I believe there is WOJ about that as well.
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Yes, the Dragon Michael killed was stated to be the weakest of the remaining Dragons IIRC.
Starshine:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 24, 2012, 12:28:47 PM ---Who said she lost in that bargain? Sure it made life more difficult but she can work around that and at the end she will probably the one getting most out of it.
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I still dont get it - what bargain exactly would Mab have made? This theory all seems so nebulous compared to Knnn's which clearly spells out what was going on and why. And it all fits. That's why I like it.
My objection was that - given what happened to Lea - I cant see Mab making any kind of bargain with the BC. She wouldnt trust them and she'd be in no mood to make bargains.
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