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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
Me Grimlock King:
--- Quote from: Goblynpunk on July 28, 2011, 09:40:10 AM ---Consider the whispering Fallen...
In previous stories, it's been mentioned that the Knights of the Cross are the countering agent to the Denarians. Since the Denarians are capable of choosing to relinquish their coins, they are still free-willed agents. I don't see how, should one of the Nickelheads have chosen to whisper a lie to Harry, it could be considered "cheating".
There are other Fallen Angels, though...one who is a great deal more powerful than Nicodemus and his crew, and Harry has suspected that That One has been cheating for some time now.
"Pleased to meet you...won't you guess my name?"
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Umm, reading this I assumed he meant Lucifer...right? I know other people said He Who Walks Behind.
Bones:
Well that was an experience! :D
I'm sorry I haven't read the thread yet, but I'm just going to list all the things that hit me.
-- Lea seems to be Harry's best ally in the world of the Bigs.
-- Kincaid. Hmmm. I'll have to reread Changes, but it by the time Harry called him from the church he'd already called to talk to Ivy and ticked Kincaid off for pressuring her. So, it seems maybe Kincaid thought Harry was calling him in as backup for whatever he needed Ivy's info for. Also, in the phone call Harry intro'd himself as "Dresden" (IIRC) and Kincaid came back with "Harry". I don't know why that matters to me, but it seems more in character for Kincaid to call Harry by his last name. Calling him by his first name suggests friendship or some kind of boundary crossed.
-- So ... the being in the cemetery was Demonreach? He was the one telling Lea not to tell Harry?
-- Fitz -- what's his ongoing role? I think he was introduced pretty thoroughly for the relatively small part he played in the story. Will he be brought into the Chicago Alliance?
-- What was Marcone doing in Italy?
Congrats to those people who stuck with the spec that Harry had himself killed. I abandoned it early on. I bow to your resolve. ;D
AnnatarLotW:
--- Quote from: Taylor0401 on July 28, 2011, 02:16:01 PM ---Maybe I'm just not remembering, but has there been any mention in the DV about "namers"? I had thought that was mostly a Rothfuss idea. I could see myself getting on board with the idea of Harry having some sort of affinity with names, but as far as I can remember there hasn't been any real mention of it so far. Not until Uriel's seemingly overreaction to being called Uri. Which I still think might just be due to removing "of God" from his name. He may have just taken it as being brought down to the level of the Fallen, but that's probably reaching.
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This makes me think two things:
1. I knew the "el" ending was important and related to God, but that makes me wonder why Lasciel still uses the "el" tag on her name.
2. If Harry removing the "el" tag from Uriel's name would have had a negative effect on Uriel, as is theorized above, what effect did Harry renaming Lasciel's shadow "Lash" have on her?
Before you reply, please remember I'm theorizing further based on the quoted theory.
omfgitsbacon:
--- Quote from: AnnatarLotW on July 28, 2011, 04:30:53 PM ---This makes me think two things:
1. I knew the "el" ending was important and related to God, but that makes me wonder why Lasciel still uses the "el" tag on her name.
2. If Harry removing the "el" tag from Uriel's name would have had a negative effect on Uriel, as is theorized above, what effect did Harry renaming Lasciel's shadow "Lash" have on her?
Before you reply, please remember I'm theorizing further based on the quoted theory.
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Maybe its not as much of a direct effect as if its an indirect effect ? Maybe shadows arent the same as the original being. I mean Lash, was influenced by Harry, something that hasn ever been seen before in the Denarian possessing people thing. Similiar to how people say Shades are memories of the people who died but Are Not the actual person themselves. Working off that, its possible that shades/shadows dont have a true name to be referred too. Im going to assume that if the true lasciel was haunting Harry, then there would be much more consenquences with Harry giving her a nickname. Though I really doubt he would care, he will just laugh at her anyway. Plus shes a Fallen Angel, they are not associated with God anymore are they?
john4200:
--- Quote from: JinElusion on July 28, 2011, 09:08:25 AM ---On a sidenote: Any thoughts on the parasite mentioned by Demonreach at the end of the Book?
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I think it just meant the tree. To Demonreach, the plants, trees, and animals on the island are parasites living on Demonreach/Demonreach's territory.
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