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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
Taylor0401:
Maybe I'm just not remembering, but has there been any mention in the DV about "namers"? I had thought that was mostly a Rothfuss idea. I could see myself getting on board with the idea of Harry having some sort of affinity with names, but as far as I can remember there hasn't been any real mention of it so far. Not until Uriel's seemingly overreaction to being called Uri. Which I still think might just be due to removing "of God" from his name. He may have just taken it as being brought down to the level of the Fallen, but that's probably reaching.
aynatal2000:
Why is it that everyone forgets that the Sidhe can lie.... through the omission of fact, through obfuscation and through sheer enjoyment of twisting up the English language? Through confusion and the ability to utterly bewilder a person so much so that they make a choice based on a lie?That is what Uriel's 7 words are - to remind Harry ; no matter what Mab says she will always omit something and it is Harry's choice that will bind him.Remember Fix and Summer and how they gained Harry's aid once
The Harry that made the pact with Mab is a very different Harry than the one in Ghost Story.Through Molly's mental exercise on his part,Harry has been given trials by fire that he would have done differently if he remembered himself and all his machinations in Changes.By having Kincaid kill him, by having his meeting with Murphy's dad, by having a small hope/suspicion of his finally given breath ( why aren't mommy and daddy's shade about? Why haven't I met with them... they are dead; right?)By seeing his friends cope and the Justice league set upon this is a different Harry - not the let the world burn man at all: not the early monster.
As the Winter Knight he will grow more powerful, gain more allies and insight.Uriel has not abandoned him.Mouse is still in his house( guarding lil Maggie at the Carpenter's) and mom...well I don't think he has lost the medallion, I think it is within.If not my money is on Lea.
Alablast:
I'm going to go back and read Changes now, but my biggest question with this is... why didn't Uriel say something back when Harry called him the first time? Harry summoned Uriel after the Fallen had shown up and done it's thing, so he could have fixed it right then and there. The only thing he mentioned was to consider Odin's words carefully, but I don't see how it would have made any difference (though I could just not be remembering everything).
JinElusion:
--- Quote from: Taylor0401 on July 28, 2011, 02:16:01 PM ---Maybe I'm just not remembering, but has there been any mention in the DV about "namers"? I had thought that was mostly a Rothfuss idea. I could see myself getting on board with the idea of Harry having some sort of affinity with names, but as far as I can remember there hasn't been any real mention of it so far. Not until Uriel's seemingly overreaction to being called Uri. Which I still think might just be due to removing "of God" from his name. He may have just taken it as being brought down to the level of the Fallen, but that's probably reaching.
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I think the "of God" part would be very important to Uriel so i understand his reaction. However, Harry also mentioned that Uriel looked... frightened.
--- Quote from: Alablast on July 28, 2011, 03:59:58 PM ---I'm going to go back and read Changes now, but my biggest question with this is... why didn't Uriel say something back when Harry called him the first time? Harry summoned Uriel after the Fallen had shown up and done it's thing, so he could have fixed it right then and there. The only thing he mentioned was to consider Odin's words carefully, but I don't see how it would have made any difference (though I could just not be remembering everything).
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Uhhhh... maybe he needed time to plan out how he was gonna balance the situation. If really all he could do was whisper seven words, i dont think any seven words could have really repaired the damage at the time.
Me Grimlock King:
Wow, just finished! Unbelievable book!
Favorite two scenes both from Molly.
"So, you've finally been inside me. I feel like I should be offering you a cigarette."
That and the idea of a Scottish accented Molly. Just picturing that cracked me up.
Oh and I literally got up and walked away from the book when Molly said she could find out who Harry was using to kill himself. I was like whoooooooaaaaaaaaaaa. Had to get up and refill my water.
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