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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
KurtinStGeorge:
The soul gaze didn't reveal Eb was the WC assassin. You would think that killing people; not just bad guys but innocents who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, would stain a person after a while. Remember Eb has been the Blackstaff for almost two centuries (He mentions New Madrid as one of his hits. Those earthquakes occurred in 1811-12.), and people can change over time.
I'm not saying I believe Eb is BC, but I can see why others would think he could be.
Akankie:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on November 20, 2011, 08:41:01 AM ---He figured that having Harry help with the council's counterattack was more important than saving one child that was probably already dead or turned (from his point of view). Also, couldn't he just hide behind a few Wards in the Nevernever if self-preservation was his goal?
And don't we have a Soulgaze confirming he's a good guy (Also, why would being the Blackstaff make him automatically evil)?
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Ah but if the council's attack was so important to him why did he leave it. If it was me I wouldn't take the chance on the curse working Ortaga's widow was putting it together specifically for him don't you think she would have thought about him doing just that and taken precautions against it.
The soul gaze isn't a lie detector and it's a one shot deal people change besides that EB might think he's perfectly justified in forming the BC like Jim often says people rarely think of themselves as the monster.
Being the black staff doesn't automatically make him evil it just means he is willing to violate everything he claims he believes in to further his and the council's agenda if that wouldn't screw up the sanest of people I don't know what would.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote ---Ah but if the council's attack was so important to him why did he leave it.
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Either it was pretty much doomed to fail at that point or his protectiveness of Harry (and Lea arranging that they would arrive) made him go and ensure Harry and friends got Maggie out.
--- Quote --- if that wouldn't screw up the sanest of people I don't know what would.
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Don't we have Woj that he simply gets tons of nightmares (and more than a little bit of guilt) from doing his job?
--- Quote --- If it was me I wouldn't take the chance on the curse working Ortaga's widow was putting it together specifically for him don't you think she would have thought about him doing just that and taken precautions against it.
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If there was a way to stop curses losing most of their potency going from the normal world to the Nevernever wouldn't it be used constantly?
bbwoof:
I just finished rereading Ghost Story, and was struck by an apparent contradiction. Consider these two assumptions:
1) Creatures of Faerie cannot tell outright untruths. They can deceive, but it can't be by outright lying.
2) Uriel would not lie.
Now consider that at the end of Ghost Story, Uriel accuses Mab of outright lying. How long will it take Harry to notice, and how will he resolve this contradiction?
If it turns out that Mab can lie, then the whole Spencerian culture of Faerie is turned on its ear. Many actions and statements of Mab -- and Lea -- and several Summerfae -- suddenly become incomprehensible, and everything we thought we knew about dealing with Faerie is invalid.
On the other hand, if Uriel would lie, then his assurance that Mab cannot change Harry is invalid. How will that affect Harry's future interactions with Mab as her Knight, and how could he make his independence stick? Will he have 300-600 years of constantly fighting to *not be a monster* to look forward to? (I mean, in addition to the "normal" temptations of a mortal wizard.)
Interesting times ahead...
Ziggelly:
It really depends on what your definition of "lying" is. The fey can stretch the truth quite extensively.
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