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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
jb5357:
--- Quote from: banethorn on July 31, 2011, 09:58:38 AM --- Then we get a little bit of Thomas, near the end of the book, and it's good. However, I don't understand why he will be able to make love to Justine just because she's going to make love to someone else, first? Why wouldn't they have done this long before? Maybe I'm just missing something. I'm not the brightest bulb on the block.:-D. Anyway, I was sort of hoping that Thomas would offer to be the Next Summer Knight in return for being able to make love to Justine.
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What i have gathered from earlier books is that this thought has occurred to them before, but they never acted to protect justine. as long as justine was poison to thomas, she was untouchable by ANY white court vamp. therefore no one could use her against thomas, which will now be ineveitable. this leads me to believe that in a book in the near future harry will have to help thomas rescue justine to redress the imbalance his death caused.
randeedoo:
--- Quote from: Tim2.0 on July 27, 2011, 12:56:38 AM ---just finished and yes the harry molly kincaid thing was quite interesting, what got me is how squirrelly and sneaky Uriel apparently is
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What else did you expect from Heavens 'Spook'?
randeedoo:
--- Quote from: laura_be on July 27, 2011, 05:02:39 PM ---Well, first of all, I think Karrin will feel betrayed. I mean, when they were talking in his appartment in Changes, when he told her what was happening, she put herself in the line for him, she promised she would be there to the end with him to get his daughter back, she compromised. But when the time came, he did not tell her of his suicide plan, that would be the motive she would feel betrayed, him hidding things from her. I think she could actually understand his motives for doing so, though. She knew what was at line.
What he did to the city? I don't know, the city went to hell because the Red Court was killed and yes, also because he was gone, but mostly because of the power vacum. I don't think she would hold it against him. Again, she knew what was in line when she set up to the mission with him.
I can't imagine her reaction to the shooter being Kincaid. I just can't. But mostly, I think she will be angry at Harry, and would probably rule out a relationship in the next couple of books, but I don't think it would be the same as what happened with Susan.
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I wonder whether the reason Harry didn't tell Karrin what he had planned was because he thought she'd stop him, or because she'd insist on doing it herself after hearing his reasoning.
Of course we know she'd have slapped him upside the head & told him to stop being an idiot, but Harry wasn't exactly thinking rationally right then.
LogicMouseLives:
--- Quote from: randeedoo on July 31, 2011, 04:32:14 PM ---I wonder whether the reason Harry didn't tell Karrin what he had planned was because he thought she'd stop him, or because she'd insist on doing it herself after hearing his reasoning.
Of course we know she'd have slapped him upside the head & told him to stop being an idiot, but Harry wasn't exactly thinking rationally right then.
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I think you're right about her reaction, but the main reason Harry didn't tell Karrin about it was that she wasn't anywhere nearby at the time, and he was under some serious time constraints. He had to get the job done quickly. He was just 'lucky' that Molly–the one person he absolutely needed to pull off the plan–was right there.
I'm looking forward to seeing it when Murphy finally finds out that he arranged the whole thing. He'll be in yet another world of hurt.
LML
xakko:
--- Quote from: LogicMouseLives on July 31, 2011, 04:48:52 PM ---I'm looking forward to seeing it when Murphy finally finds out that he arranged the whole thing. He'll be in yet another world of hurt.
LML
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I think that - maybe after another right cross or a gut shot - she will understand.
from Ghost Story, Chapter 18, page 176
'She [Murphy] looked away. It was a moment before she answered. 'With someone that powerful ... there's not really a choice. If you try to take them alive, they have plenty of time to kill you.''
If she buys into the idea that Harry was certain he'd be a monster, she might have done it herself, and would appreciate that Harry didn't ask her. Because she would've messed it up. Kincaid wouldn't. He doesn't miss. Ever.
However, I do see her never forgiving Kincaid *if* he did come over to comfort her as Harry imagined he had. That would be too much. If not, I think she might forgive Kincaid too, as it was his job, and again, the idea was to remove a monster.
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