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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
rapier1642:
--- Quote from: lewis on July 31, 2011, 08:02:47 AM ---Is it too obvious to presume the parasite was Lash? As we learned from White Night the areas of his brain in which she was stored were destroyed, but given that they were only small bits all over the place and that wizard cells create identical copies when healing she could have returned by now and be tweaking strings out of shot. Furthermore as a parasite it is within her best interests to keep her host alive.
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That was my initial thought as well. The parasite being Lash
banethorn:
I loved this book,but I have some thoughts...don't we always!
Plus Side:
* Loved the way Molly's character was brought to life. What a great line; "So. You've finally been inside me. I feel like I should be offering you a cigarette." That was so cool. It showed she was all grown up
Also, that she'd aquired Harry's smart mouth. The entire Star Trek sequence that took place in her mind was another one of my favorites.
* Then there was Butters and Bob. At first, it bothered me that Butters had aquired Bob; but by the end of the book I felt he had earned his roll as caretaker. I always liked the character, but now even more so.
* Mortimer got some great characterization. For the first time I really liked (respected) him. Before "Ghost Story" he was just a minor bleep on the radar as far as I was concerned. Nothing to write home about.
* Another character I think might prove interesting is Fitz. Does his unusual coloring and the fact that "his eyes were an odd shade of brown, so light as to be nearly golden." mean anything. I like this character, already.
Things That Bother Me (Of course, I need to find 'some' fault no matter how much I like the series.
* What Dresden asked of Molly. I'm sorry, but I totally understand why he did it. He was being mentally being messed with by some big time "former angel" at the time. Also, it was his daughter he was trying to protect. He was trying to save the world from himself as the Winter Knight, as well, Still, he needs to make things as right as he can, or he won't be our Harry.
* Then, there's what he's done with asking Kincaid of all people to do the dirty deed. Could he have contacted Marcone for a favor? Maybe not, but if Karrin finds out I can't imagine her taking it well. I think she is likely to be furious at 'both' Dresden and Kincaid.
+ Then there's poor Thomas. Hasn't this poor guy been through enough? How's he going to react to the fact that Dresden left it up to Molly to tell him, or not, Then, Molly left him wallowing in guilt, thinking that it was somehow partly his fault; rational or not. Let's face it, Thomas was still recovering from the worst form of torture by the Skinwalker.
Poor guy, first, his mother left him with a father she knew would kill him as soon as he reached maturity. I believe she was on the run for about five years (I may be wrong on this point,) but I believe Thomas was nine or ten when Harry was born. Knowing she might be caught/killed; she, at least, had already taken steps to ensure that Harry had a Fairy Godmother to look out for him.In addition, Harry was to recieve the legacy of her knowledge of the 'Paths'.
Then, there's Ebenezar mcCoy. As far as I can tell, he has never shown the slightest interest in his 'other' grandson. Of course, maybe he ignores Thomas because he hated his father.
Add to this the fact that Harry "never once thought about Thomas, not once since returning to Chicago" because Harry would feel shame about not trusting him. I haven't got a problem with the fact that he didn't tell Thomas. Lets face it, Thomas would have tried to stop it; but come on. I really had a hard time with the fact that Harry would deliberately forget about his brother.
Then we get a little bit of Thomas, near the end of the book, and it's good. However, I don't understand why he will be able to make love to Justine just because she's going to make love to someone else, first? Why wouldn't they have done this long before? Maybe I'm just missing something. I'm not the brightest bulb on the block.:-D. Anyway, I was sort of hoping that Thomas would offer to be the Next Summer Knight in return for being able to make love to Justine.
Well, what's important is that Harry's back and in his body again. I guess I'll have to settle for remaining ignorant about some things.
Anyway, I really enjoyed the book. Jim Butcher is one of my favorite authors. I can't wait a whole year for the next book! :-( Help!
Kilroy:
Demonreach:
--- Quote ---MAB GAVE YOU BREATH.
HERE (meaning I) PROVIDED NOURISHMENT.
THE PARASITE MAINTAINED THE FLOW OF BLOOD
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If the parasite had something to do with anything on the island he would not have broke of the statement into 3 lines. He see's himself as the location, anything on the island might be seen as a parasite to "here" but not to Harry. But really in my opinion to call a Tree on "Here" a parasite would be to call the hair on your head one, People trying to live on the island is another thing... and from the abandoned town we can see how "Here" deals with parasites. So I really have no clue what it could be at this point. I dont think it is Lash tho... if and thats a big IF there were anything left of her how would that keep his heart pumping?
It could be nothing really and now Jim is reading the forums doing your standard evil laugh.
Kilroy:
--- Quote from: banethorn on July 31, 2011, 09:58:38 AM ---Things That Bother Me (Of course, I need to find 'some' fault no matter how much I like the series.
* Then, there's what he's done with asking Kincaid of all people to do the dirty deed. Could he have contacted Marcone for a favor? Maybe not, but if Karrin finds out I can't imagine her taking it well. I think she is likely to be furious at 'both' Dresden and Kincaid.
+ Then there's poor Thomas. Hasn't this poor guy been through enough? How's he going to react to the fact that Dresden left it up to Molly to tell him, or not, Then, Molly left him wallowing in guilt, thinking that it was somehow partly his fault; rational or not. Let's face it, Thomas was still recovering from the worst form of torture by the Skinwalker.
Poor guy, first, his mother left him with a father she knew would kill him as soon as he reached maturity. I believe she was on the run for about five years (I may be wrong on this point,) but I believe Thomas was nine or ten when Harry was born. Knowing she might be caught/killed; she, at least, had already taken steps to ensure that Harry had a Fairy Godmother to look out for him.In addition, Harry was to recieve the legacy of her knowledge of the 'Paths'.
Then, there's Ebenezar mcCoy. As far as I can tell, he has never shown the slightest interest in his 'other' grandson. Of course, maybe he ignores Thomas because he hated his father.
Add to this the fact that Harry "never once thought about Thomas, not once since returning to Chicago" because Harry would feel shame about not trusting him. I haven't got a problem with the fact that he didn't tell Thomas. Lets face it, Thomas would have tried to stop it; but come on. I really had a hard time with the fact that Harry would deliberately forget about his brother.
Then we get a little bit of Thomas, near the end of the book, and it's good. However, I don't understand why he will be able to make love to Justine just because she's going to make love to someone else, first? Why wouldn't they have done this long before? Maybe I'm just missing something. I'm not the brightest bulb on the block.:-D. Anyway, I was sort of hoping that Thomas would offer to be the Next Summer Knight in return for being able to make love to Justine.
Well, what's important is that Harry's back and in his body again. I guess I'll have to settle for remaining ignorant about some things.
Anyway, I really enjoyed the book. Jim Butcher is one of my favorite authors. I can't wait a whole year for the next book! :-( Help!
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He asked Kincaid cause he knew it would be clean. He respects the man and knew that if he asked him to do it he would. Not only would it be a clean and quick death but he would not have to worry about the police tracking anyone down. He would never goto Marcone for something like this.
Thomas had a hard life starting up yes but she knew Harry would be a Wizard, I think thats why she made the deal with Lea for him. More things can hurt a young wizard then a young white vamp IE Justin. As well no one knows of the relationship outside a choice few, I dont thing Eb even knows. Hell we did not even learn he was Gram Pa Eb till the end of the last book.
Harry also said there was a reason he never thought of his brother. Subconsciously he knew if he did he would feel the instant shame of not telling him about what he was going to do. So his mind did all it could not to think about him.
You got me the on the whole Justine thing tho.... I think Jim cheated on that one just to give Thomas a booty call.
As for the Knight thing I am guessing you mean Winter Knight as Fix is currently in the role of Summer. While I could see him taking the offer Mab is a little crazy over Dresden... I mean look at what shit did to herself in order to stay in Chicago till May. I still think this shows even more proof that she has been infected or altered in some way to show a character change this big.
lewis:
--- Quote from: TubularBells on July 31, 2011, 08:40:35 AM ---The problem with saying one of the Denerians is responsible for whispering to Dresden is the simple fact nothing they do qualifies as cheating. They exist in balance with the Knights and are free to maim, deceive, kill, and subvert to their black heart's content. Another reason to exclude the Denerians is because something so subtle would not really be practical at that moment and time for them. If they wanted him dead and managed to get that close to him, then why waste the breath? Just bash his head in and be done with it. As for Lash specifically, assuming that she even survived giving up her 'life' for Dresen, what would she gain by getting Dresden to kill himself? The entire purpose of the Shadow of Lasciel is to subvert Dresden so he will take up the coin; killing him would be quite counterproductive.
The truth is that Uriel's care to avoid saying the Fallen's name makes it clear who he is talking about. Think about how in Small Favors, Mab takes great care to refer to the archangels by titles and not by names, even cautioning Dresden about saying Uriel's name. How in Changes, the Erlking warned Dresden about the consequences about saying Mab's name a third time. To put all that it into context, the idiom "speak of the Devil" is more than just a turn of phrase in the Dresdenverse, and quite literal in this moment and time. It was the Prince of Darkness cheating in Small Favors that dragged Uriel into the story, and it seems the Prince of Darkness cheating in Changes dragged Uriel back in again.
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I think this is probably true and since starting the series Jim said he'd end it with an apocalyptic trio. Nothing starts an apocalypse quite as well as finding wrong with the devil and probably fighting it at some point knowing Harry.
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