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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
john4200:
--- Quote from: LogicMouseLives on July 30, 2011, 09:42:02 PM ---If any old fallen angel could just walk up to any old human being and whisper lies in their ears, with the only possible drawback being the return whisper of an opposing angel? Well. I don't think the human race would have lasted this long.
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Who says any old fallen angel can do it? And even if they could, why would they want to? And even if they want to, why would the fallen angels be so much better at whispering than the angels who get to counter?
john4200:
It seems that the majority think that the parasite is Lash. I certainly hope that is just wishful thinking and the majority is wrong, because that is really lame. I hope that Butcher would not write something so contrived.
Dresden was shot in the chest near his heart by someone who does not miss. So there was some major heart damage. If the blood circulation was maintained by a beating heart, then Mab must have healed his heart almost instantly. And Mab was apparently providing "breath". If she can do all that, then causing the heart to beat is trivial. On top of that, the freaking tree can somehow magically grow conduits into Harry's blood vessels. If the tree can magically do that, it should be easy for it to also circulate the blood. Either way, there is no need to involve Lash to circulate the blood. If Butcher does write Lash into there for no good reason, then it is just lame. I hope he does not.
zraith:
--- Quote from: dzimmerm on July 30, 2011, 02:13:53 PM ---In regards to Deomonreach referring to a parasite.
To an island, which is what Demonreach is, a tree might be considered a parasite as it lives off the minerals and water of the island. Minerals that are processed and released into the atmosphere would be effectively lost to the island.
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I'll have to disagree with you on your depiction of Demonreach. The way its described its not an island, but the Place/Location/Force and what it signifies; it could just as well have been a forest completely on land or an area in the middle of Chicago. Thus what happens on that island is insignificant to it as long as it doesn't threaten its Own existence since its not the island itself that gave rise to it, but what that area is in metaphysical terms (convergence of leylines and as others mentioned a well of power). It's this well of power that Demonreach is, the island and everything else on it could be seen as physical extensions of itself.
john4200:
But that distinction is hardly relevant to the discussion of the parasite. Whatever Demonreach may encompass, the tree living on the island certainly would seem to be a parasite to Demonreach.
Also, a typical tree does not contain everything a human body needs for nourishment. So it would make sense for the nourishment to come from "here" (Demonreach, somewhere in its domain) and only be channeled through the tree into Harry's body. So "here" could provide nourishment (channeled through the tree), the tree (parasite) could circulate the blood, and Mab could provide breath.
Jared:
--- Quote from: john4200 on July 31, 2011, 12:54:55 AM ---Whatever Demonreach may encompass, the tree living on the island certainly would seem to be a parasite to Demonreach.
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Except that parasites tend to not help the host or respond to its demands. When Harry reached through his connection with Demonreach, the trees obeyed his wish to dump...what was hiding in them?...in Turn Coat.
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