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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**

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mjs4484:
The way that I took it, when Mab snapped at Demonreach that Harry was hers to shape as she pleased, was that as long as Harry thought it was possible for her to do so, it WAS true. So Mab wasn't lying even though her statement was not empirically true.

ON another note, one thing that irked me was how, in Harry's remembering of the time Molly erased from his memory, Kincaid seemed not to remember that he had just heard from Harry several hours or a day or two ago. I have the audiobook so pinpointing the exact moment would take a while. Can anyone with the physical book provide the text for the phone calls from Changes and Ghost Story?

Sue:
Definately worth the wait. Wow.

Going to do some rereading before posting more ... Thanks JB!

zraith:

--- Quote from: john4200 on July 28, 2011, 08:07:56 PM ---No, the simplest explanation is usually the best. Look at how Demonreach talks. It uses odd words for things. It would not sound right if Demonreach called it a "tree". Parasite is the sort of odd word Demonreach would use to refer to the tree.

And the distinction you refer to is hardly important. My body digests food and my parasites aid in the digestion process. Just two different ways of referring to a process at different levels.

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--- Quote from: ethanjf on July 28, 2011, 09:41:11 PM ---Except that the "parasite" is specifically mentioned in connection with the circulation of blood, not of digestion. Remember the tree is associated with IV tubes going into Harry. But *something* still needs to keep his heart beating. I think that some fragment of Lash remaining behind is the most likely explanation.
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Demonreach said this: "Mab gave you breath. Here provided nourishment. The Parasite maintained the flow of blood."

That Here is Demonreach, its referring to itself, the island and everything on it. The Parasite, a third entity, that Demonreach is referring to could only have come from 2 places, before Harry was killed or after the time that Mab got his body. And who else has a vested interest in keeping Harry alive that can do such a thing? And its not with digestion or circulation, Mab saved his body and fixed the damage, Demonreach provided the nutrients for the body with the tree roots and the Parasite (personally I think its Lash or Lasciel) maintained the body until Harry returned to it.

The other thing to keep in mind is the human body can not run on the same red blood cells for 6 months, they only last between 100-120 days since their maturation in the marrow before being recycled. Parasite also means something that lives off something else and for the most part not providing returns for what it took and the Tree was clearly giving something to Harry and not living off him.

It was also stated in past books that the Fallen are like parasite to their hosts and only Nicodemus and Anduriel have what can be called a symbiotic relationship with each other.

Glorificus:

--- Quote from: zraith on July 30, 2011, 02:46:19 AM ---Demonreach said this: "Mab gave you breath. Here provided nourishment. The Parasite maintained the flow of blood."

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Maybe not relevant, but in other threads here they are saying Lash is the parasite.

yeanomaybe:
I've been reading through this thread just to make sure I don't repeat anyone... There's a couple questions I have.

Am I the only one who made the connection between gods and demons thrown out from other places, living in the sea as a description of the Fomor and the Lovecraftian mythos? If Cthulhu shows up in the next book, I would be extremely surprised, but strangely satisfied.

Speaking of Lovecraft, even the name Chaunzaggorath reminds me of him and his naming scheme. Could just be that JB felt that name sounded particularly demonic...

He still have no idea what Demonreach's other powers are besides local intellectus. We also don't know what "lives on the other side" of the island. Plus, it almost seems that Mab is scared of Demonreach in the last couple chapters of Ghost Story. Wonder of wonders, eh? The whole significance of the island being the "spring" of dark energy as opposed to just a channel for it also still hasn't been explained. There's gotta be a pretty big baddie on the other side, but if The Gatekeeper, and Peabody are acquainted with it... Would that also imply that the Black Council/Circle (or whatever it's called) has some sort of alliance with this hypothetical Big Baddie?

Also, when discussing the Fomor, Lea said something about them being thrown out "a long time ago"... My question is whether the Nevernever was created with the rest of supposed Creation (and therefore answers to the Guy Upstairs) or has its own creators and gods... or is even just the creation of assorted beliefs. In Ghost Story Harry talks about forming his own demesne in the Nevernever. Could it be that the Sidhe are mortal spirits that grew to be ridiculously strong in the Nevernever through an incredible amount of time there?

I want to see the Erlking back. That guy was a boss. In conjunction with that, will Thomas eventually have to hunt Harry? Does the Erlking have a mortal knight (now or has he ever had one)?

Concerning necromancy and death in "shades of gray", how could Kemmler, the most accomplished necromancer mentioned in the series so far, just drop into death and bid farewell to life so easily when one of his apprentices, Corpsetaker, only took a year to almost return him/her/itself to a body. I see an Evil Bob and Kemmler reunion. Or maybe Kemmler put part of himself into Evil Bob? I'm speculating pretty hardcore right now.

In response to the whole Mab-lying debate: The lies are in the meaning of what she says, not in the words themselves. I also think the idea that the Sidhe can now lie would be pretty weak if JB just threw that out there now. I seem to recall other members of the White Council (maybe Ebenezer?) saying that the Sidhe unequivocally CAN NOT LIE. They seem to have been around long enough to know...

Any bets on in which book the White Council completely collapses/Harry becomes a senior council member?

In closing, if that parasite is Lash... Awesome.

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