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Demonreach, the Holy People, and Outsiders
Serack:
--- Quote from: teamlash on July 15, 2011, 06:51:01 PM ---It's a very good hypothesis, and the basis of a lot of angel-based mythology. I'm just a wishful thinker :D
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Oh yah, angels on heads of pins and stuff... I'm not sure which is more productive, those discussions or this one... ;D
--- Quote from: teamlash on July 15, 2011, 06:51:01 PM ---So would that mean that if the Outsiders (hypothesising of course) were the ones to be imprisoned beyond demon reach, that they would have to be physical creatures at least in part?
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oih vey.
There are some reallllly odd concepts swirling around in my head that try to deal with that question.
Jim has confirmed that the Outsiders are Lovecraftianesque. Some of his monsters were so incorporeal they were flat out colors. I'm not so sure the term "Physical" is completely ascribable to something from the same place as the mordite described in SK.
--- Quote from: DM ch.29 ---"...It's not from our world"
"It's extraterrestrial?"
"You do not understand, Miss Rodriguez," Ortega said quietly. "Mordite is not from this galaxy, or this universe. It is not of our reality."
...I nodded. "It's from Outside."
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I get the idea that their existance is rather anthetical to ours... Hence their powers being associated with a different ascerction of reality at the end of WK.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: Serack on July 15, 2011, 06:47:52 PM ---Or we might have to wait until we get more info in the books :D
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Well yes, but that's like finding out who lives in the white house third from the end with what kind of pet and what they do by knocking on the door and taking a census. No fun at all.
It's always possible that I'm right about the prehistory, and that it's from a time when humans had writing, or at least pictographs for recording information/warnings, and that they were still put there by some non-human entity.
Another question though, if the runes are prehistoric, that means the Lighthouse is prehistoric. So who made that? The earliest recorded evidence of a light house is the Pharos, but even that was only built in 300 BC (or so). We'd be looking at something probably 2-3 millenia older than that if it's prehistoric.
Serack:
--- Quote from: peregrine on July 15, 2011, 06:58:36 PM ---Another question though, if the runes are prehistoric, that means the Lighthouse is prehistoric. So who made that? The earliest recorded evidence of a light house is the Pharos, but even that was only built in 300 BC (or so). We'd be looking at something probably 2-3 millenia older than that if it's prehistoric.
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Or maybe the stones reused to make the building, are actually not in their first reusage...
Lash Dresden:
--- Quote from: Serack on July 15, 2011, 06:47:52 PM ---The person that took the notes for that WoJ Thought it had something to do with some graphetti in underchicago, but I'm pretty sure it had to do with some script on some small vessels used for collecting blood for an ascension ritual.
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This is what I was thinking, as well. The script around the mouth of the jar, together with the information that the individual was collecting blood from large, dangerous animals, was enough for Bob to figure out what was afoot. I'll have to check it when I get home.
Joefoe:
going to say the stones where on the island and new persons used them to build light house but beat to it
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