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Origins of the Three Eye drug. (Changes spoiler)
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Zolt on July 07, 2011, 10:56:35 AM ---We shouldn't work on the basis that all of Creation revolves around Harry. Even though it does (this is the Dresdenverse, after all).
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All creation does revolve around Harry. But at that point in time most players did not now yet so it could not influence their decisions.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: sociotard on June 29, 2011, 03:06:22 AM ---yeah, one running speculation is that
*Person who gave Victor the Three Eye recipe to attack Marcone
*Person who gave hexenwulf belts to the FBI to attack Marcone
*Person who got Denarians to attack Marcone
are the same person. It makes me wonder if Marcone is even more important in the BAT than Harry is.
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I can but Nicodemus being 1 and 2, there, and there not being any need for someone to get the Denarians to attack Marcone. Marcone has a pretty major mundane power base, which might be reason enough even given what we know in SF; I would like to at some point find out with a bit more clarity precisely when Marcone became aware of the supernatural world, and whether he was doing anything relevant to it before Gard showed up in DM.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: spinningcats on June 29, 2011, 07:12:00 AM ---I don't see why it couldn't be Victor's own creation. We have only seen Harry make potions and he seems pretty terrible at it since Bob needs to constantly hold his hand.
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Yep, and Sells knows a lot less about what he is doing than Harry even in SF. I don't believe that Sells on his own managed to invent a potion to do something the Council believed was flat-out impossible, and doubly not when we have confirmation in Changes that he was definitely a guinea-pig for the curse.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Me Grimlock King on June 29, 2011, 04:03:57 PM ---So basically, the whole series and everything that harry has gone up against so far, has been to try to get Harry to leave the White Council, and join "someone". I would say that sounds like overkill just to get Harry.
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Not if he's the only Outsiderbane anyone knows about, and may well be the last hope of the whole planet when the coming Outsider apocalypse arrives.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Arjan on July 07, 2011, 12:01:27 PM ---All creation does revolve around Harry. But at that point in time most players did not now yet so it could not influence their decisions.
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This is one of those assumptions a lot of people make that I just do not get.
We can, I think, safely deduce from Maggie's message to Harry in BR that Maggie knew Harry would be an Outsiderbane. She apologises for laying such a difficult burden on him.
I think any player who was a known associate of Maggie's can have know how important Harry was since before he was born.
We have textual evidence that this definitely includes Justin, Lord Raith, and Lea. Lea knowing it means Mab knows it and seems to me to be Winter's motive for Lea making the deal with Harry when he was sixteen in the first place. We have Nicodemus in DM talking as if he knew Maggie; I think he's lying through his teeth but if he's not, then he can plausibly know how important Harry is from the get-go. We have plausible options for Cowl being connected to Maggie's former cabal, so he could well know how important Harry is.
We also have players in action who have intellectus or something akin to it and who can thereby Just Know Harry is important without an evidence trail of this sort. I count the Faerie Queens, Uriel, and Odin at this level.
The combination of all these, and people working for them or being played by them, adds up to pretty much everyone can have known that Harry was important. I've argued before for not only everything in the books but everything of importance in Harry's entire life being the product of a bunch of competing agendas for people trying to win him over to their sides.
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