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Who told Monica Sells? (Wild speculation and possible series spoilers)

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Serack:

--- Quote from: Electric MacButters on June 28, 2011, 10:57:15 PM ---True, I suspect that it is based on Harry's knowledge of the Sidhe.  Harry assumes that since the Sidhe cannot kill a mortal unless he/she is involved with one of the courts, no creature from the nevernever can kill a mortal unless they enter into (or violate) the Accords.

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Several people have pointed out lately that it's just the queens that have this restriction.  Before Curses I could have argued it both ways, but it's flat out stated in Curses that:



--- Quote from: Naked City page 15 --- (click to show/hide)Harry love, the Queens of Winter and Summer do not kill mortals and so frown on their followers taking such action, but the High folk of the Tylwyth Teg have no such restrictions
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I get the idea that the Sidhe need to have some kind of connection to work magic on a mortal, but that doesn't mean they can't do other things to harm them... other than that if they are a member of the courts the Queens may not like it, and I would posit that if they are working at the behest of the queens they flat out can't.  

That's a side track though.  

I don't think that Victor Sells ever met Lara or Lord Raith.  Only because if he were their cat's paw, there was probably another blind between him and them.

Phariah:
yes that is true. Lara explains when Harry confronts her about Madeline. Lara says she was a fool for only removing herself by 1 factor/ blind removed from the lawyer.

OlosBC:

--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on June 28, 2011, 10:32:15 PM ---Your spoiler tag is where I disagree.  I think Victor was given an unused ritual to test whether it would work, and was otherwise totally disposable.

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Except we know from the end of Changes that Martin, as a Red court half-vamp priest saw the ritual, or read about it, and used that as the basis for his scheme to double-bluff and destroy the RC.  This doesn't mesh well with the idea that it's something that hadn't been tested until some no-name newb sorceror in Chicago used storm/sex power to run it.

Alablast:

--- Quote from: Serack on June 29, 2011, 01:23:09 AM ---Then I remembered that Jim has said that he really enjoyed writing Backup because it allowed him to go into the background of the (click to show/hide)Oblivion Wars, which was something he had really been wanting to do but couldn't do from Harry's perspective for obvious reasons.  Unfortunately at the time that I heard him say that, I hadn't read Backup and had no idea what Jim was talking about. Even more unfortunate, I didn't record it, and apparently it was in an audio or video WoJ source that has yet to be transcribed because I can't find it using browser search methods. 


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The opening paragraph in Side Jobs for Backup is pretty much exactly that.  Good memory.  o_O  I would type in the exact quote for you, but I'm too lazy to get up and get my Nook, but it can be found there.

Serack:

--- Quote from: Alablast on June 29, 2011, 03:26:39 PM ---The opening paragraph in Side Jobs for Backup is pretty much exactly that.  Good memory.  o_O  I would type in the exact quote for you, but I'm too lazy to get up and get my Nook, but it can be found there.

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THANK YOU!

I was going nuts trying to remember where I got that from.


--- Quote from: Side Jobs page 134 (Nook, presumably from the Hard cover) ---I also got to bring some of the other background material of the Dresden Files story world into play.  The Oblivion War was something I really loved, conceptually, but like the White Court its very nature prevented Dresden from getting involved without causing the entire thing to implode.  This was an ideal place for that piece of universe background, and it made me feel all warm and fuzzy to finally get it out where the readers could see it, too.
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(My nook was 12 inches from my hand, and was actually at the page before that one for Side Jobs)

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