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A fresh perspective on Proven Guity (Spoilers for everything)
Cruness:
--- Quote from: knnn on June 27, 2011, 05:55:52 PM ---
Perfect solution, except for one thing....
Harry accidentally blows up the wellspring of Winter during the fight - wounding Mab (that's right, Harry wounded Mab, not the Hellfire attack), and calling back the hosts of Winter.
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I think you are dead on here. Harry wounded Mab, and I think that this is what Jim meant when he said the Mab never really figures Harry quite right.
The rest of your theory is well supported, I'll buy it, as the best explaination I have seen thus far.
Piotr1600:
Wow - why didn't I see this earlier?
This is awesome-good theoretical work knnn!
To throw a little more fuel on, consider this...
If we extend that future vision just a little bit, it makes more sense to me that Raschid would be more concerned with saving massive quantities of WC casualties/fatalities than he would be concerned about one still very minor warlockette.
By moving the pieces just so, he* arranged for Michael to accompany a whole lot of WC personnel thru the NN back to Chicago - thus preventing the RCV+ Outsider ambush from becoming a rout & a slaughter.
In PG, Eb himself seems to think that the RCVs combined with the outsiders they encountered would have been much more deadly without a KOC there to deal with 'tentacles and things'.
While I'm certain (from his actions / word choice) that Raschid was offended by what the Merlin was intent on doing to Molly, IMO the real goal was probably to save all those young wardens - and the experienced wizards accompanying them. It was also an effective action against outsiders, which is admittedly something that Raschid has a professional interest in... :)
So, I'm positing that the Gatekeeper was warning Harry about black magic as part of a goal to save WC lives AND act against outsiders. Saving Molly may have been just a nice bonus...
It is a case of wheels within wheels...
*As food for thought: Were two seemingly unrelated plans (Mab and Gatekeeper) that just happened to wind up supporting each other quite well a mere coincidence?
It is possible I suppose, but if there is some kind of communications channel between the Gatekeeper and Mab (which I have suspected at least somewhat since the Gatekeeper turned up with that chunk of stone table AND when Mab recognized his anti-Fae eye-unguent) then I think it hangs together somewhat better...
Serack:
--- Quote from: Piotr1600 on June 30, 2011, 03:29:17 PM ---Wow - why didn't I see this earlier?
This is awesome-good theoretical work knnn!
To throw a little more fuel on, consider this...
If we extend that future vision just a little bit, it makes more sense to me that Raschid would be more concerned with saving massive quantities of WC casualties/fatalities than he would be concerned about one still very minor warlockette.
By moving the pieces just so, he* arranged for Michael to accompany a whole lot of WC personnel thru the NN back to Chicago - thus preventing the RCV+ Outsider ambush from becoming a rout & a slaughter.
In PG, Eb himself seems to think that the RCVs combined with the outsiders they encountered would have been much more deadly without a KOC there to deal with 'tentacles and things'.
While I'm certain (from his actions / word choice) that Raschid was offended by what the Merlin was intent on doing to Molly, IMO the real goal was probably to save all those young wardens - and the experienced wizards accompanying them. It was also an effective action against outsiders, which is admittedly something that Raschid has a professional interest in... :)
So, I'm positing that the Gatekeeper was warning Harry about black magic as part of a goal to save WC lives AND act against outsiders. Saving Molly may have been just a nice bonus...
It is a case of wheels within wheels...
*As food for thought: Were two seemingly unrelated plans (Mab and Gatekeeper) that just happened to wind up supporting each other quite well a mere coincidence?
It is possible I suppose, but if there is some kind of communications channel between the Gatekeeper and Mab (which I have suspected at least somewhat since the Gatekeeper turned up with that chunk of stone table AND when Mab recognized his anti-Fae eye-unguent) then I think it hangs together somewhat better...
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I'll have a lot more to say within the week, but there's another dimension here for the "communications channel" in that I'm pretty sure that Michael was already leaving Chicago on a calling before Harry even spoke with him after getting the Gatekeeper's message. Implying that someone on that side of things had a toe in the mud too.
knnn:
--- Quote from: Piotr1600 on June 30, 2011, 03:29:17 PM ---*As food for thought: Were two seemingly unrelated plans (Mab and Gatekeeper) that just happened to wind up supporting each other quite well a mere coincidence?
It is possible I suppose, but if there is some kind of communications channel between the Gatekeeper and Mab (which I have suspected at least somewhat since the Gatekeeper turned up with that chunk of stone table AND when Mab recognized his anti-Fae eye-unguent) then I think it hangs together somewhat better...
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Ooh, good catch! The Gatekeeper-Mab connection is something I usually keep in the back of my mind, but totally missed in connection with this theory.
knnn:
--- Quote from: Serack on June 30, 2011, 03:41:55 PM ---I'll have a lot more to say within the week, but there's another dimension here for the "communications channel" in that I'm pretty sure that Michael was already leaving Chicago on a calling before Harry even spoke with him after getting the Gatekeeper's message. Implying that someone on that side of things had a toe in the mud too.
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Other possible WG touches:
- The whole "Molly coincidentally interrupted me before I could disastrously use Little Chicago" seems very WG in flavor.
- Father Forthill's hunch at the end of PG ("You're being prepared for something").
Based on the thing you and Piotr have suggested, it sounds like nearly every major power in the DV had a hand in the events surrounding Molly's abduction. This makes it *much* more plausible to me that "Molly is Special" is a valid theory.
P.S. Serack.
I'm interested in seeing what else you come up with after your re-read. Let me know!
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