Were-forms that should not be?

[lordoracle]

I had a player wanting to run a were-raccoon. We used stats for a cat as a template and modified it to account for a raccoon's dexterity with it's hand-like paws and such.

[citadel97501]

I think that this rule would conflict with the group.


Life Rule #3
Never trust an animal with opposable thumbs. . .

[BumblingBear]

I always thought it would be cool if someone were a giant were ant.

In that case, mythic strength would be more than permissible.

[Haru]

Riding a pony sized were-ant into battle might be almost as epic as riding a t-rex, I assume. It would definitely turn heads

That is, of course, if your were-ant buddy doesn't just eat you for making the suggestion 

Uuuuh, what about a whole colony of giant ants under a city? If you could get them to help you, you could have your whole group riding on giant ants. Add classic western music and have your final battle take place at high noon in a deserted desert town.

Or I might have been in the sun for too long today...

[mithrandirthewhite]

On the evolution argument, arent the Alphas descriped as Ice Age wolves? Or am I thinking of McFinn?

[InFerrumVeritas]

On the evolution argument, arent the Alphas descriped as Ice Age wolves? Or am I thinking of McFinn?

I think you're thinking of Hexenwolves.

[MijRai]

In Dead Beat when they save his bacon from Cowl, he says the Alphas look like remnants of a past Ice Age or something like that.

[BumblingBear]

The books have said that the alphas are larger than regular wolves.

I've always figured they were dire wolves or some such.

I actually liked finding that out, since regular wolves (singly) are really not all /that/ dangerous to an armed human.  To a supernatural monster....

It takes a lot less suspension of disbelief to imagine direwolves attacking ghouls.

[MijRai]

Well, if we assume the Alphas don't change weight when shifting, the lightest of the Alphas is still 20-50 pounds heavier then a normal wolf. The average weight is around 80 pounds, depending on location and subspecies.

Also, I made a (man-sized) were-scorpion, and I felt it deserved Supernatural Strength. A were-ant could qualify for more, I bet.

[Sanctaphrax]

I think that a human-sized ant would actually be weaker than you or me. As I understand it, the enormous proportional strength of insects is thanks to the square/cube law rather than any advantage of design.

And I'd let a were choose more or less anything as an alternate form.

[Belial666]

Well, it's both due to square/cube law and the mechanics of their bodies. Insects are a lot stronger than mammals for the same mass because a) they are made of considerably tougher materials and b) they are made of somewhat lighter materials. Besides, insectoid bodies are far less vulnerable than human bodies.


On the other hand, giant insects have problem existing because their breathing systems are less effective and thus can't easily power human-sized bodies. If someone tries to make a normal spider human-sized, the spider will die of lack of air. You need to use the "blueprints" off pre-Permian man-sized insects for them to actually work.

[citadel97501]

You had to mention the thing, that gave my science class insect phobias didn't you.

[Silverblaze]

Were-Temple Dog should not be.

Yet, see craziest concept thread.

[BumblingBear]

I own tarantulas.  I like spiders.  But if arachnids got any larger than a 1 foot leg span, I would have a kill on sight policy. :/

[ways and means]

A Were Kangaroo Boxer should never be.