What's the catch for a wrath-feeding White Court Vampire?

[exploding_brain]

My first inclination is to go with True Compassion.

Might be better to phrase it as True Love, but to make clear a distinction between True Eros, the anti-Raith emotion, and True Agape, roughly "love for your fellow human being".

Any thoughts?

Edit: Or maybe I mean True Philia.  I'm not 100% clear on the precise flavorings of the ancient Greek words.

[JustinS]

True Peace or true forgiveness?

[surarrin]

True Peace.

[Mal_Luck]

The book suggests True Peace which I agree with.

I'm currently attempting to write up a White Court Vampire who is the son of a Lust feeder and a Wrath Feeder and can feed on both and whose Catch is satisfied by both Love and/or Peace.

[exploding_brain]

What page is that on?  I looked, but only found discussions of Lust/Love, Despair/Hope, Fear/Courage.

[Mal_Luck]

White Court Virgin, page 85. Right margin.

[exploding_brain]

Thanks.

[Mal_Luck]

Thanks.

Your welcome. 

And as a side suggestion, for the ultimate act of feeding. I would think it would be to make someone murder someone else, which could be interesting. Good combo for a Wrath/Despair vampire to make Murder/Suicides.

[stranger]

Are there rules defining what qualifies as "true love" etc. in game?

If character X and character Y enter a lust white court nest together, is there anything to stop them going.

Player X: I am now in love with character Y.
Player Y: Yeah, I'm in love with character X. We're immune to their powers now.

Short of DM fiating that the players have to kiss, I mean. 

[Mal_Luck]

If by kiss, you mean have the sex and are truly in love with each other... then yes.

Otherwise no.

I think your either in love with X PC/NPC or not, really up to you and your GM on how you want to play it.

And I think True Hope and True Courage are more circumstantial and limited in how long they can protect the user/wielder/"truee"

Love as we can see in the books can last for years, if not more.

Peace is an odd duck, I can see it lasting for a long time for someone like a Buddhist Monk or Zen guy, or a circumstantial basis like Hope/Courage.

[Slife]

My first inclination is to go with True Compassion.

Might be better to phrase it as True Love, but to make clear a distinction between True Eros, the anti-Raith emotion, and True Agape, roughly "love for your fellow human being".

Any thoughts?

Edit: Or maybe I mean True Philia.  I'm not 100% clear on the precise flavorings of the ancient Greek words.

I think True Compassion would work better for an apathy-feeding white court vampire.

Which could be pretty creepy, actually.  One of Harry's defining traits is how much he cares, and for him to suddenly not...

[drnuncheon]

Are there rules defining what qualifies as "true love" etc. in game?

I would say that your true love probably deserves an Aspect devoted to it (check out Thomas and Justine's writeups for an example).

[JosephKell]

I think to get someone to "rage out" and kill another would require you to first take the murderer out via Mental Stress, then basically compel them to act out their rage.

I bet a Pride WCV would be stealing away a person's caution (taking their self-doubt and possibly their fear as a consequence of the missing self-doubt).  Convincing someone they can stop a bank robbery or that they can safely jaywalk a high speed freeway would be a pretty succubi way to kill someone.

I would say that your true love probably deserves an Aspect devoted to it (check out Thomas and Justine's writeups for an example).

That is what my group came up with.