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Emotions fuel magic right?
Moriden:
--- Quote ---For starters, personally I find the "my character has debilitating condition X so he can always draw on it for power!" idea is silly. If it's one of the character's aspects, expect to be compelled all the damn time to the point of uselessness. But anyway...
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These conditions by there nature are crippling yes. at least one of your aspects should reflect that you have it regardless of how else its expressed. and the fact that your in near crippling amounts of pain should heavily impact your character. there's also the simple balancing factor that when/if your charecter ever finds a way to reduce or remove the pain[ and what sane person wouldn't be trying to ] all that extra power disappears.
I just got an idea while writeing that actually. we could potentially combine the mechanics of lawbreaking and sponsored magic in some ways. Use the debt compels from sponsored to represent the gradual shifts in behavior and the actions your now willing to do, that you previously thought you never would, and every x times you pull on the "pain magic" one of your aspects has to change to reflect that so much of your self image/source of power is wrapped up in pain.
Biff Dyskolos:
--- Quote from: Moriden on April 30, 2010, 11:39:59 PM ---Some very good ideas here , but my original question was how would you represent drawing power from persistent and constant pain, not a form of pain that is temporary.
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The only way to get a persistent bonus is through a stunt.
--- Quote from: YS:146 ---Stunts exist to provide guaranteed situational benefits.
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arentol:
--- Quote from: Moriden on April 30, 2010, 11:39:59 PM ---Some very good ideas here , but my original question was how would you represent drawing power from persistent and constant pain, not a form of pain that is temporary.
The Aspect Idea could work, but that only comes up when you have fate pionts to spend. and/or your st feels like invoking you're "in horrible pain" aspect to give you fate points. certainly a viable solution but might not appeal to some players due to its more hit and miss aplications for something that thematically should more or less be "always on".
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Ahh, missed part of your original post, sorry.
I think I would allow only new, or temporarily greatly increased, pain to be invoked to power sorcery. So most of the time the constant pain can't be invoked because it is just part of the background pain of the persons life. They are "used" to it. So the only time they can invoke it is if the pain itself is invoked by something else, either an action of their own, or by taking physical stress. Once that happens they can invoke the pain aspect to power spells.
I don't know if all that makes sense, but I understand it. ;)
Moriden:
--- Quote ---I don't know if all that makes sense, but I understand it. Wink
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So your saying that only emotions/pain above the norm should be able to fuel magic? Meaning that even if my base level of x emotion is two to three times that of a normal persons i still cant "tap into" it anymore then the normal person can. That makes a certain amount of sense. i would use christine? harrys brothers love interest to argue against it though. she is described in the early books as "to full of emotion" and that is why shes so prized as a chew toy, because her greater depth of emotion makes her energy "more potent" and possibly means theirs more of it.
--- Quote ---The only way to get a persistent bonus is through a stunt
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Didn't mean to say or imply otherwise. My preferred method as of the moment is to use some variant of sponsored magic which would definitely mean you'd have to pay for it. I'm just looking for other peoples ideas, and to bounce mine against the wall in such a way as to get other peoples feedback on them.
My current idea is something like -5 refresh though and that seems prohibitively expensive to me.
KOFFEYKID:
Ok, how about this, lets give you a stunt called
Constant Pain [+1]
Your character is in constant, sometimes overwhelming pain. Take a -1 Penalty to any use of the Athletics skill. Add +1 to your refresh adjustment.
And another stunt called
Use the Pain
Whenever you are in pain, you may add +1 to any mental discipline rolls.
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