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Lawbreakers: Do We Need Them?

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luminos:

--- Quote from: biff_dyskolos on April 29, 2010, 10:40:42 PM ---If you have Lawbreaker (First law), does the bonus automatically apply to your Weapon:x evocations or do you have to choose to use it?

If it is automatic then I prefer Lawbreaker as a stunt. Otherwise I think I prefer Lawbreaker as an aspect because it is compellable.

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You have to be doing something that would break the law to get the bonus from the stunt.

KOFFEYKID:
The answer is, if you are shooting spells intending to incapacitate your target, the No, a 1st lawbreaker wont give you a bonus, if you are shooting spells to kill, then Yes, it will give you a bonus.

Biff Dyskolos:

--- Quote from: KOFFEYKID on April 29, 2010, 11:06:03 PM ---The answer is, if you are shooting spells intending to incapacitate your target, the No, a 1st lawbreaker wont give you a bonus, if you are shooting spells to kill, then Yes, it will give you a bonus.

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Depends what you mean by incapacitate. I'm not talking about casting a Block or a Manoeuvre. When you cast a Weapon:X evocation your intent is to harm them. Even if you don't do it with the intent to kill them, death is still a possible outcome. It depends upon the targets current stress/consequences.

If the Lawbreaker bonus applies because you intend to harm them and death is possible then that feels grittier to me. Otherwise you can take Lawbreaker(First Law) just because it fits your character concept and then during play you throw evocations around but never intend to kill anyone. That seems gritless. :)

Deadmanwalking:
I'd say Lawbreaker (First) only applies when you intend to kill someone.

Now, because of my house rule, I count Red Court vampires as someone for that bonus, but you still have to be trying to kill, not just capture or injure.

Biff Dyskolos:

--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on April 29, 2010, 11:27:26 PM ---I'd say Lawbreaker (First) only applies when you intend to kill someone.

Now, because of my house rule, I count Red Court vampires as someone for that bonus, but you still have to be trying to kill, not just capture or injure.

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Kind of like First Degree Murder vs Manslaughter?

I guess whatever power is behind Lawbreaker is more in tune with the spirit of the law; as opposed to the Wardens who are all about the letter of the law.

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